All guns have a modifier I think for FG-42s it’s 1 so what you see is the real recoil value but AVT-40 has 0.25 multiplier which means what you see all are 4 times multiplied
Here
| Select-Fire Rifles | Unlocked | BR | 10m | 100m | Velocity | Magazine | Reload | Alt Reload | Rate of Fire | Vertical | Horizontal | Recoil Mult | Vertical | Horizontal | Dispersion | ADS | Hipfiring | Visual Recoil | Recoil Dir | ADS Speed | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| AVT-40 | 176 000 XP | V | 15.3 | 12.5 | 815 | 15* | 2.5 | 1.7 | 660 | 87 | 32 | 0.25 | 22 | 8 | 0.18 | 0 | 15 | 0.7 | 0.2 | 0.8 | 15/45 |
Well No since LMG Federov already exists ingame??? the AR Federov looks and behaves like an AR?? Almost no one ever complains about it (except here now) ??
Yeah no.
It’s an RGAR
Russian Garbage Automatic Rifle
It belongs in Rifleman by logic
The problem is that German machine guns have an extremely terrifying firing rate, and the Germans can quickly eliminate the enemy
Russian Garbage Automatic Rifle
Ok so its an AR just like the designer intended.
So WW1 Fedorov spam on all maps in both early and late WW2 battles?
No, thank you.
I sincerely dont think Germans want to face the Federov as a riflemans weapon in a 9man squad (as if facing it in 6man paras wasnt bad enough) or want to face it in BR2 battles instead of the DP-27
Yeah this thread is just full of terrible terrible ideas. You’re asking for even more OP Soviet bias, please stop 
So why does the SMG class have an automatic rifle?
Why not? The Commies and we have to face 9 man FG 42’s
Besides, what’s the difference between
10.5 DMG
570 RPM
25 Round Mag
12 DMG
550-600 RPM
20 Round Mag
They look pretty darn similar enough to me. Both are WWI rifles as well. Yeah the Fedorov is VERY comparable to the BAR. Especially once it gets the LMG debuffs
Fedorov’s mg disagrees with you
In all seriousness, the US should just give the pistol grip bar modification as a 5br semi-automatic rifle. There were simply many times more users of that rifle than those who used the fg 42
Cause Soviet infantry weapons are already best in class for most systems. Federov is already very solid, I dont know why you want it to be even more OPIE.
They look pretty darn similar enough to me. Both are WWI rifles as well.
BAR is 7.5kg minimum, Federov starts at 4.4kg. So under >60% of the weight.
Thats why one is an BAR/LMG, and the other a AR. You could literally carry two Federovs for one BAR IRL.
Because it’s too OP as an Assaulter weapon. They shouldn’t have Auto Rifles period. They get Assault Rifles, not Auto Rifles. They’re two entirely different types of rifles with one belonging to Riflemen and one belonging to Assaulters. Take the inappropriate weapon from the Assaulter and give it to the Rifleman. That’s all it is. A logic inconsistency
Don’t even know why you’re arguing over this little joke addition, but ALL LMG’s get a movement debuff regardless of weight
Ur being pedantic, Federov is lighter than AS-44…
Does that mean AS 44 is a battle rifle or some shit?
It doctrinally, physically and stats wise fits in the AR slot. Historically considered a a proto AR.
Nothing suggests it should be anything else, bar the BAR variant of the Federovs which literally are LMGs in game (bipod and MG barrel, heavier weight.)
There are many fair suggestions in these threads but this one is like 98% wrong & bad idea.
It is an automatic gun chambered in Japan’s full power rifle cartridge. It is an Auto Rifle. Auto Rifles belong to Riflemen. It’s simple logic
6.5mmx50 Arisaka is an intermediate round. Its even why Japan switched to FULL POWER 7.7 Arisaka.
US new ASSAULT RIFLE ROUND is the 6.8x51mm, literally bigger round for an AR
So even on this front ur off.
The 6.5x50mmSR Arisaka (designated as the 6,5 x 51 R (Arisaka) by the C.I.P.[1]) is a semi-rimmed rifle cartridge with a 6.5 mm (.264 in) diameter bullet. It was the standard Japanese military cartridge from 1897 until the late 1930s for service rifles and machine guns when it was gradually replaced by the 7.7×58mm Arisaka.
The 6.5 mm Japanese round was later criticized as being under-powered in comparison to other contemporary military cartridges such as the .30-06, .303 British, 7.92×57mm Mauser, and 7.62×54mmR.
Yes, it was a weaker round compared to their contemporaries, and it was later replaced by a more powerful bullet. Similar to how the 30-03 was replaced by 30-06 because of the advancements in ballistic performance made by their contemporaries. This does NOT take away the fact that it WAS Japan’s full power service cartridge used in both their service rifles and machine guns. It is a full powered rifle cartridge. If a pathetic one at that
Look, long story short the 6mm intermediate power cartridge, of which the Federov, based on 6.5mm Arisaka, has long, for basically a century; been theorized to be the perfect sized solider round.
Basically, by almost every schollar’s work, the 6.5mm Federov falls by doctrine and performance in the assault rifle category. Literally next generation US ARs will feature a very similar catridge as an AR round.
Just because intermediate catridges did not exist at the time and it was instead called a “pathetic” full power catridge doesnt change the fact its INTERMEDIATE IN ITS PHYSICS.
Dont take it up with me, take it up with every modern weapons scholar and writer in the past half century.
Alright. Fine
Except those are not intermediate catridge when they are the same fricking length of a full size rifle catridge with a smaller bullet
The new 6.8x51mm is a Battlerifle catridge for god sakes
