That didn’t even happen in April lol it was November, clearly you never played it
Your missing the point, eventually they are going to run out of ww2 stuff. please read my original comment before making assumptions. expanding ww2 until what? we get made up battles that never happened? I only see expanding ww2 to the point we run out of ww2 content, ww2 only lasted six years. the amount of content they release in each update is a decent amount, regardless if you want the game to stay ww2 situated. the devs are going to need to make money somehow?
The magical mountain which is China that we have to somehow climb without making them angry or doing something that will make them censor us or we could expand into Normandy landings for the Canadians and the British.
And if we have to go into the future for more Wars then let’s wait until we get to steam and get more numbers before we do anything like that first.
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Ok, I agree with you on getting it ported to steam, yes the population does need to grow first.
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well i did but i dont keep track of the dates and it was darkflows spin on the getto events, so i linked the dots there either way
all in all it was not longed lived and quickly died becuease it was terrible and it did not fit the game well
yea make a new game
it way past your bed time
it 4pm?
Again. You just rename Soviets to Eastern European Front etc. The current tech trees already include stuff of different nations of US (US has American, Canadian and British stuff and squads) and Germany (German has German and Italian and Czech and Romanian stuff and at least Italian squads). It would make sense to rightfully ask Df to rename the factions/ tech trees.
Its the same except you split up the Allies for some reason and I remember that you wanted hardlock vehicles on maps which again splits up the MM into hardlock subtiers.
This type of map split also makes weird Allies/ ahistorical fronts. Cant wait for the Poles to learn that they fight together with low Tier Soviets against Germany in 1939 Poland. Or the Western Allies not being able to fight in Greece despite them being there twice.
Except Yugoslavia wasnt a German Ally. I think the entire Balkan Campaign speaks for itself, let alone the Anti-German coup.
There were Balkaneses who collaborated with the Germans but these was not a Yugoslavian state, but Croatians, Serbs and Chetniks (Correctly spelled?) plus minus Italian clay in Albania and Montenegro. Tito worked with both Soviets and Allies.
Greece? Iirc Greece was a kingdom by WW2 after the royal coup of 1935. Pretty sure royalist make good Allies with communists.
The Soviets had no real Allies in WW2 apart from maybe Mongolia as they mostly annexed/ satelitted nations.
Ethopia? I dont think they are worth it considerong them being partisans after the Second Ethopian War and mostly using interwar stuff and then being limited to East Africa. And why maybe the Aussies and Kiwis considering their role in North Africa and Italy? Denmark never really fought against Germany, in fact far more Dens fought “for” Germany as volunteers (mostly SS) than for the Allies (who mostly served as navy personell). Norway would maybe deserve it a bit more.
And where is Poland?
Weird that Borneo appears but not British Raj, the Netherlands and the Soviets and Mongolia.
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You should make a new thread for this.
Great idea
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Not; Poland and Greece were doing just as much fighting as the Soviets. But even if it was just naming, would it be wrong to do so?
Notice how Britain is not the US, and notice how the British Commonwealth is not the US. Dark Flow knows that Britain had a standing army and its own vehicles, so why were they being lumped together into the US faction? Is Darkflow really willing to lump Denmark, France, Holland, Belgium, and Ethiopia into it as well? Is it a good idea to lump all of those countries’ weapons and vehicles into the US when we could have a faction for them all called “Allies Western” and add everything from the countries listed into that? There would be no complaining about no representation of a country because it represents all Western Allies. You would not have to worry about adding an entirely new faction, either.
Who would I contact?
The Allies are already split in the merger due to a USSR faction and a US faction; I am simply accounting for the other long-term possibilities of other factions coming.
The only reason I suggested this was because I thought that it would be unfair for Western Allies to have to fight a Tiger II (H) and possibly a Maus or Sturmtiger. If there were a hard lock on vehicles, it would be for the universal faction (Axis Europe) with the most OP tanks in the game. But you said there wouldn’t be an issue due to the devs saying that the BR would be so high that the US won’t see it, and I said I would gladly scrap that part of the offer if this news were so. Why do you bring this up now when it was settled?
Are you saying that US and Soviet soldiers will be fighting side by side in the merge?
The Poles were well known for orchestrating attacks in coordination with the Russians in the war. Numerous historians document this.
The low amount of troops sent to Greece to aid their army was so low that they should only be considered as premium squads. The Greek army had a standing force of a total effective strength of 430,000 men. The British sent 52,612 men,100 tanks, and 200–300 aircraft. At best, there would be a couple of normal vehicle squads with a sprinkle of infantry squads. At worst, a couple of normal vehicle squads with maybe 2 or 3 premium infantry squads.
They literally signed the Tripartite pact with Bulgaria two days before the coup. All Germany was doing was squashing partisans sent by Britain and the Soviets.
It is not about them being Allies; it is about where they are located. Last time I checked, they were on the eastern side of Europe, not the west. Regardless, this adds more content to the Eastern Allies, along with Poland.
What are you talking about? The Ethiopian army was fighting the Italians for two years with outdated infantry weapons, 10–11 million rifle cartridges, four tanks, and thirteen planes.
Adolf Hitler, in proceeding to try to be the most hypocritical racist ever, equipped the Ethiopian Army with 16,000 rifles, 600 machine guns, 3 airplanes, and 10 million rounds of ammunition.
The Ethiopian army consisted of 40,000 regular soldiers and 500,000 irregular soldiers all with poor equipment with the nucleus of the army being the 7,000 royal guardsmen trained by Belgian officials. There were also some volunteers from Europe and mercenaries who joined the Ethiopian army.
They also had some success at the beginning of the war at the Christmas Offensive. That all changed till the Italians rage quit and pulled out their mustard gas. This would go on for two years until the surrender of the army.
I had a brain fart. I was thinking that they should be premium units and/or event units and have the normal squads in the Pacific, but you bring up a valid point. Common Commonwealth W
They fought them for a good 6 hours killing over 300 Germans. But Norway is now added to the list; the more, the merrier.
Eastern Allies
I included Borneo due to specific tribes there that were known for blowing poison darts into Japs and then cutting off their heads with machetes. They were specifically recruited for this.
As for the Soviets, I am not sure if the Allies Pacific tech tree would be too op against the the Axis Pacific tech tree. We could do that, though. As for the Raj, I thought that would be considered Commonwealth, but will happily accept them along with the Soviets, Mongolia, and the Netherlands. The more countries, the more equipment, and more content. The more the merrier
I am thinking about it, possibly soon.
See even your idea is better than the current merge.
But really i personally would rather play against bots in a setting i choose than play against players in a setting i have 0 control over.
On dev server for example i found germany and US to be virtually unplayble and apart form that there are multiple levels of screw ups that can happen and potentially even increased grind.
If you need X amount of lines to unlock next progression tier then you will have the same issue as now where you need to unlock multiple things you don’t want/need to progress.
I am all for unified progression but i do not want a unified matchmaker that’s just a recipe to loose total number of player for a more concentrated player pool.
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yeah I hate that level locking bullcrap
Thats not the point.
Then whats the entire point of a different system if you basically just rename the faction tech trees and thats about it?
Again, its just naming. Rename it Allies and be done with it.
Idk. I think Helpers and Alphas are usually the way to go. Maby DM them (e.g. Shi or EdVanSchleck).
Get M26 and Super Pershing.
The Poles were also well known for fighting the Germans and the Soviets at the same time.
The Poles that fought on the “side” of the Russians were mostly incorporated into the Red Army (and often they are former pows), not an independed nation as the Poles who fight with the Western Allies.
The CW Forces made up 10% of the Allied forces in 1941, not to mention they probably had the vast majority of Allied tanks there. Still more than Danish and Ethopian forces committed to the war I guess.
BEFORE.
Thats the point. The Yugos were not allies of Germany anymore at this point. This alone would prevent any Balkan 1941 maps because Yugoslavia is Axis now.
Thats just stupid then.
And? The Second Ethopian War isnt part of WW2. Ethopian Forces in WW2/ East Africa were 30k. Thats even less than the CW Forces in Greece yet they need unique units? So we can play with WW1 guns and ebonic chicks?
Wow. That makes then a standalone faction. Why not add Luxembourg at this point?
Soviets and Poles, best Allies ever. The Poles will love it.
Makes no sense to make them a unique subnation if this can be achieved by a premium squad.
Well. I was told that Japan has the power of blueprint. Also, the Jumbo would probably cause more dmg than the T-34-85 anyways.
Also, that is usually sth. that BR would fix anyways.
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It is the point because they were in the EAST, not the WEST. That is why I suggested lumping their weaponry, equipment, and vehicles in the Eastern Allies tree with the Soviets and Greeks since they are on the Eastern front, as well as the Eastern Allies research tree needing extra weaponry.
I said in the beginning that I wanted to revolutionize the merger and lump every country’s weaponry, squads, and vehicles into Factions divided by European (Western Allies, European Axis, and Eastern Allies) and Pacific (Pacific Allies, Pacific Axis). The War Thunder BR system, progression, etc, stays the same, as I said before.
Why are you against it then?
Do you want to run this back through one more time on messages to clear up any mistakes, confusion, etc, when I send my offer to them?
Hence, their squads, weaponry, and vehicles would be added to the Eastern Allies.
Is it? Last time I checked, the Eastern Allies only had a bunch of Soviet gear with some Polish stuff. Greek flavor does nothing but encourage people to play as Eastern Allies.
Bullcrap, World War II started with the invasion of Manchuria. As for the number of the Ethiopian Army, I give you this:
No, it is so that we can play with Shotel swords, bows and arrows (make it special or something), spears, WW1 and WW2 guns, and ebonic men and women (+ ESG points for adding black women to the game). Also, it falls under Western Allies, FYI.
See WW2 guns highlighted below:
Won’t need to since it will fall under Western Allies therefore all of the weaponry, squads, and vehicles go into the Western Allies research tree.
Doesn’t matter; the Eastern Allies research tree needs more flavor besides Ivan’s vodka. Last time I checked, Poles are in the East.
Perhaps, I guess it would be fair to make people pay to use blowdarts in the game.
Good, Soviet weaponry, squads, and vehicles are in the Pacific Allies Faction. 
Thats stupid. Eastern Front means not Eastern Europe as a whole. It is the name for the front of the Axis against the USSR.
Greece was part of the Balkan Campaign which itself was overall part of the Medditerean Front.
The Invasion of Poland is also not connected to the Eastern Front as the Eastern Front didnt happen until 1941 and the German and Soviet troops were allied.
If you need weapons, make land-lease which was used by the Soviets.
Then this makes even less sense. What is the point of two seperate Allied queues if BR manages Japan anyways?
I never said. Your idea is just over the top and stupid in regards to historical accuracy which is a bit weird if you are for representation but represent countries in the wrong way because of lazy ahistorical geographics.
The Russians barely used Polish stuff. At least the Germans made far more use of the Polish stuff than the Soviets. Free Polish squads/ unit never fought together with the Russians.
This would also elimate any chance for a Soviet Invasion of Poland because for some reason they are Allies though they never were.
CW means Commonwealth and I still think its around 10% and still more than Ethopias overall contribution to the war or Soviet contribution to the Greeks or the Poles.
(Still doesnt make the Yugos Axis Allies)
People play Sov… sorry “Eastern Allies” because of the Soviets and the iconic battlefields. If Soviets need more stuff, given them Land-Lease. Makes more sense than adding a ally they never had, who mainly use outdated French, British and Italian stuff anyway. People dont play for diversity anways. The spam PPShs, Zombie Feds and T-34s.
Did I imply that? I was talking about the Second Ethopian War.
And again, yo uare showing numbers of a war which isnt part of WW2.
If you already open wiki, maybe google the East-African front and you may find this.
Guns we already have ingame except for maybe the ZB .30. Please, add more uniqueness. We need negroes with Mosin Nagants. Heck, even chunk of the (Pre-)WW1 and interwar weapons are already in the game.
Then whats the point of all that if this can also be included in Df by just adding other nations squads in the tech tree?
Last time I checked, Poles were not Eastern Allies/ Soviet Allies.
Eastern Front (World War II) - Wikipedia
The Eastern Front [j] was a theatre of World War II that fought between the European Axis powers against the Soviet Union (USSR), Poland and other Allies, which encompassed Central Europe, Eastern Europe, Northeast Europe (Baltics), and Southeast Europe (Balkans) from 22 June 1941 to 9 May 1945.
It is not a matter of needing weapons; soviets have tons of weapons; it is a matter of flavor. To act like anyone wants to taste Ivan’s vodka without something to clean the palettes with is absurd. We must go to Flavor Town.
It makes complete sense, considering Japan wasn’t the only Pacific Axis country fighting in WW2; Thailand was also fighting with them with their weapons and vehicles.
Eastern Front (World War II) - Wikipedia
The Eastern Front [j] was a theatre of World War II that fought between the European Axis powers against the Soviet Union (USSR), Poland and other Allies, which encompassed Central Europe, Eastern Europe, Northeast Europe (Baltics), and Southeast Europe (Balkans) from 22 June 1941 to 9 May 1945.
Yet here you are, with making out with the ahistorical.
Yet here, the Soviets have AS-44s in mass in Berlin. I don’t think Russians barely using Polish stuff will be a problem.
It doesn’t matter, still zero to none, with Greeks taking the brunt. 
Guess what? More people will want to play Eastern Allies due to the inclusion of Greek gear, Polish gear, and Greek maps. There is only a positive by adding them to it. You want more people to play as Eastern Allies, no?
Yes, you did.
East African Campaign was later in WW2 after the 2nd invasion of Ethiopia.
No FN Model 24 and 30 is in the game. No Martini-Henry, Chassepot, Fusil Gras mle 1874, Lebel is only in premium, Berthier is premium, Mauser Model 1871, Gewehr 1888, Werndl-Holub rifle, Manlicher M1888, Kropatschek rifle, Mannlicher M1890 Carbine, M1870 Italian Vetterli, Berdan is premium, and Remington Rolling Block rifle.
The uniqueness is waiting to be added to the game bud…
Because that is more work and requires you to make another tree 
Whatchu mean by negroes? Do you have a problem with black people shooting a Mosin Nagant?
Yeh no BRs don’t fix that kind of stuff and war thunder is the perfect example of this.