They should have much less recoil, more rate of fire, zero or heavily reduced dispersion (every gun should have no dispersion anyway), and one hit kill damage for those who use full power rounds such as M1 Garand, SVT series, Armaguerra, Gewehr series, and Type Hei series and other weapons that are in BP or maybe added in the future. Developers must find another way to counter macros without artificially limiting semi auto rifle rate of fire.
Soviet players will need to have BR II semi auto rifle or else they gonna cry. I have nothing in mind yet but I believe the community will provide some viable Soviet BR II semi auto rifle
All BR IV semi autos should be foldered with their BR III counterparts and retiered to BR III, all bolt actions will now be BR I weapons and locked to BR I matches only. This retiering will most likely shift the dynamics of high BR matches from select fire weapons into more and more semi auto rifle, giving more diversity in the weapon systems employed in matches.
BR V must be locked to fight another BR V when they want to start using whatever make believe prototype or ultra niche SF and assault rifles and have fully automated rage inducing matches amongst themselves.
Maybe some machine guns will have to get retiered to BR IV in order to make them useful. (what’s the point of using machine guns in BR V where everyone is carrying wunderwaffes?)
In summary, semi auto rifle supplemented by supporting bolt action in sniping or grenade launching capacity should be the bread and butter of BR II-IV matches instead of the SMG infestation we currently have right now without having to severely restrict class by significantly buffing semi auto rifles to have real playability in the long term instead of being just another stepping stone before players unlock their first select fire/assault rifles. It’s also nice if DF be kind enough to hasten the grind from stock bolt action to first semi auto by reducing XP requirements.
the SVD-30 sight is pretty strange, that’s why they put him the scope
Not sure they would put the same as TT ,the semi auto conversion of the mosin would be the best candidate
i think this will do, Axis and Soviet get 5-6 round full damage BR II semi auto and Allies will get 15 round half (maybe three quarter?) damage BR II semi auto
Dark Force has some very nice level one and two Semi auto’s, unfortunately they are all Battle Pass. I pretty much bought all of them since other then low level sniper rifles I am not good with bolt action.
German Level One Beretta 1918/30. I bought all four off Battle pass a couple years ago and use them all in level two. Shoots fast with very very low recoil.
Level two Smith and Wessen Lite Rifle. I bought all four off Battle pass a couple years ago and field all of them over the M1 Carbine in level two
Level two Smith Lite rifle I think is far superior to the M1 Carbine and I field all four.
Level two Soviet KB-P-135 Battle Pass semi auto. Very nice, smooth no recoil. It’s actually my new favorite low level Semi auto off Battle Pass.
No level listed as this is a pistol, but a Soviet SMG pistol that shoots fast, smooth also in Battle Pass for those like me who try and avoid bolt action. Only two drawbacks, it’s only got a 15 round mag and it only carries 45 total rounds. But great at short in fighting.
So, Dark Force has some very nice lower level semi auto’s, if you want to pay for them. I would love to see them in the tech tree or at least let you buy five, but I am not holding my breath.
The main advantage of BR5 machine guns is continuous fire, literally the opposite of SF rifles with their 15-30 magazines.
There’s no reason for lowering current BR5 machine guns.
But I understand that meta chasers who have no experience with anything that isn’t meta literally have no idea what they’re talking about.
This should be case for all BRs.
That’s basically the only buff semis really need. Devs should significantly reduce the dispersion penalty when moving.
Classic dispersion when the soldier is stationary is fine.
No, they definitely should keep dispersion to some extent.
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The main advantage of BR5 machine guns is continuous fire, literally the opposite of SF rifles with their 15-30 magazines.
There’s no reason for lowering current BR5 machine guns.
But I understand that meta chasers who have no experience with anything that isn’t meta literally have no idea what they’re talking about.
I think just because MGs or sniper rifles are a support tool, doesn’t mean they have to have the same meat grinder power of assault rifles.
Semi autos tho are simply problematic - in think they are completely outclassed in BR4, while being decent in BR2 and BR3, simply because SMGs get strong enough in mid BR matches that they often outperform rifles even in mid - long range combat.
Move them further back in BRs and they will make bolt actions obsolete, keep them in BR4 and they will be useless.
i think sooner or later bolt actions gonna obsolete anyway other than for the purpose of sniping, larping, and grenade launching with BR 2 smg being cheesy and cycleable. i think its best for us to acknowledge that and start moving towards making SA rifles actually serviceable as the “service weapon” for majority of players. It is extremely sad for support/rifleman players who don’t want to touch AR/SF/SMG to be forced to fight these cheesy meta SMGs especially using either obsolete bolt action that can’t do anything against SMG rush or heavily gimped SA rifles that miss most of the time or can’t kill competitively enough
if only they start adding more map, customizations, and campaigns instead of more and more niche prototype weapons and copypaste weapons. still very bitter that the allies get ofenrohr instead of M20 Bazookas and the soviets getting the best version of thompson unironically instead of america
mostly germany BR 3 rifleman/engineer/AT who have to fight with suboptimal VG 1-5 and Gewehr 41. Allies as well with their M1 Carbine being peashooter that have to wait for 2-3 business days to shoot another round and M1 Garand with 50 MOA although fully spaded Garand shoot okay ish. Hell, allies BR III semi auto situation is more fucked because Garand will have to make do agaist sweatlords with Type Hei auto and Tokyo Arsenal
i mean even without damage buff these weapons will do fine with dispersion and rate of fire buff, but gaijin have spaghetti code so to prevent macro users they have to use idiotic solution that ruined most SA. I still can remember how glorious the G43 in Berlin back then that CAN compete with PPSh 41 spam
agree, ±1 is nice with the addition of ±0 BR I and V for the beginners and the sweatlords, II-IV seems like the most WW2 like setting we can get right now
Of course, Dark Force never listens to me. 