Enlisted aircraft are too durable

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Enlisted aircraft are too durable.

I would like it to have the same durability as War Thunder instead of eliminating aim assist.

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My tail is ripped off from 1 round from a 109

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Some aircraft such as IL-2 can soak up surprising amount of lead while others such P-51 mustang will self detonate from any caliber.
Its “historically accurate” not all aircraft were same in durability. The famous P-47 and FW-190 earned their fame with their survivability, “race horses” such as Me-109 or P-51 likely won’t return if suffered engine damage.

Ofcourse a 20mm will rip off your tail, its supposed to and 30mm should outright delete the aircraft from existence.
Fun fact: most vehicles were ported in from War Thunder and tanks are historically accurate while aircraft are arcade mode port ins.

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Making them less durable would reduce the skill cap for A2A gameplay. Right now, it’s all about sniping the pilot - be it against players or against bomber call-ins.

If you could just oneshot the plane no matter where you fire, having good aim would become far less relevant and dogfights would devolve even further into “whoever gets the jump on the other just wins”.

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Aircraft aren’t too durable unless you are shooting them with a pea shooter like 7.62 and even then you can pilot snipe and cause critical damage to the controls and engine/structure.

The only durable aircrafts would be the heavy attackers such as IL-2 which is a well armored aircraft. On the flipside, the IL-2 cannot compete in a proper dogfight with a good fighter pilot.

I don’t believe the damage model on Enlisted strays to far from War Thunder. The flight model in Enlisted follows Simulation physics comparable to War Thunder so damage is pretty extensive. A hole in your wing can cause you to flat spin because of this so the need to increase damage artificially is not needed.

20mm cannons rip parts of your plane right off or damage it very extensively, almost to the point of not being able to fly. Even 7.62 shreds planes.

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we need improves AA and SPAAS too

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It would be great if we could have this one back and we could also take out some paratroopers as well just to be a bonus

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It’s very similar, altho it’s a bit customized compared to WT, planes have less health in enlisted overall,

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Pro tip: the “aim assist” lead indicator targets the center mass. Depending on which direction the target is flying, firing a bit ahead of the indicator will score you more consistent hits on the engine.

I’ve taken out P-47s and BF110s with a single burst if you wait for the proper moment.

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I had a game today where My Bf109 K4 had struggled to take down a P38 whit its x1 30mm and x2 13mm
I know desyn also a problem so i did lead more
Of course i needed a few round to die
I spawned in My Tiger 2 H and i short burst from a 7.92
did set the same plane on fire

Btw planes are bad because the models from early WT
And we cannot do anything about it thats why im only using a plane if anything else is boring

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Whoever gets the jump on who kinda already is how things are unless you are in some insane UFO with 10 sec turn, or you are fighting against some noob who doesn’t know they can use flaps.

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You wrong
Actually planes in Enlisted using older WT models

In WT most of the time a single 30mm form the mk103 enough to destroy a plane unlike in Enlisted when i have trouble to take a P38 with more than 10 shell and i even seeing the rounds explodin on its wings or on the fuselage + in Enlisted you have to consider the desync as well when trying to shoot down planes
i never had promle with desync un WT unlike in Enlisted and im using the same internet

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That’s on you, I’ve never used more than 2/3 30mm shells to destroy a plane in enlisted
And the models aren’t older, for example current WT models are onesided, and so are enlisted’s planes

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So you telling my that the bad dammage models of the planes in Enlisted and the fact that the planes takes more bullet to shoot down when they shouldn’t + the desync make it even harder its all my fault and all those peoples fault who has same experience

And its also my fault when a x6 .50 on the P51 D5 cannot shoot down german plane but the x2 .50 on the M13 can shred them

Meanwhile in WT i have no issues
Yeah definitely on my

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Since I have no issues destroying planes with the 51 D-5 (and i used it often), yep.

Tank bullets have different stats compared to plane shells, just like in WT

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You could be hitting nothing with that gap in the middle of the P-38

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Planes are not durable whatsoever, unless you are hitting wing tips and engine cowlings with rifle caliber bullets. If you are having issues with hitting the plane due to desync or just skill issue, try getting closer to the target before opening fire. That should correct for the issue in both cases.

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Stil dont get then how the hell i have no problems whit killing the same plane in WT?
Yes Enlisted using older WT plane models
Therefore its not my fault
Back then when i started playing WT the planes was the same as in Enlisted but now more realistic
therefore still not my fault

the only things was my fault that i thought planes in Enlisted will be the same as in WT since im used to more realistic side of the WT nor the arcade one
therefore still not my fault

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Don’t use the K-4 for dogfights if you can’t sneak up on your enemy.
30mm is much slower than 13mm and your sight is calibrated for 13mm.

30mm is good for blowing infantry to pieces (HVAR but less potent basically)
Relying on FW-190 A-8 will get further.

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I don’t know. Didn’t really get into WT till about 2020ish