Enlisted aircraft are too durable

Most of the time when when planes are appear to be immortal to your hits is when all your hits are just made by the shitty 7mm back up guns as the aim assist doesnt actually recognise the largest (mostly20 mm) as the gun you want to use but the fastest flying gun ( your shity 7mm MG less affected by drag) as the gun to reference. This means US actually has a huge benefits by only having a single type of gun on their planes with their .50 and no backup gun to missdirect the marker.

How about no

Delete aim assist

I would like they give us back those quad cannon AA than the new peashooter single barrel

I’m not sure how accurate war thunder represent reality but planes don’t always explode mid air when hit with 1 cannon round.


BF110 shooting 30mm autocannon at B-17 that fall behind formation

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If this were War Thunder, the B-17 would have evaporated after the first shot. Planes are significantly more fragile in WT than they were IRL. They are also significantly more fragile here as well, assuming you can land your shots.

It really doesnt take much to bring them down. Even with 7mm.

If you get in shooting position and know not to shoot directly at the lead indicator, its over in seconds

Also alot of planes have wing mounted guns to consider when aiming (no convergence…depending on your orientation, offset your aim to match)

most of the time, even just being hit screws your performance so badly it slowly starts to fall out of the sky, or is a real pain to maneuver, Often making it best to bail and get in something else.

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You’re just missing your shots. Not being mean. The lead marker is only a rough estimate - it doesn’t properly account for ping and maneuvering

Also the lead indicator seem to update less frequently than the game frame rate or something else as it jump all over the place during a hard turn.

Having some home-schooled understanding of how networking code works, to me it seems like it’s just client and server fighting → client updates it locally, probably more often, then the server update comes and says “oh btw the aircraft actually turned, pitched down and accelerated” so now the reticle jumps to updated position, then gets simulated by the client and becomes increasingly out of sync with server authority, then another update comes and it jumps again
With lower ping and smoother maneuvering it’s less of an issue, but client simply cannot account for other player inputs before the server update comes
I guess there are ways to “cheat” it a bit, but it all comes with tradeoffs

B17 called “flying fortress” for a reanon
But seeing 30mm round do nothing on a P38 wing in Enlisted also unreal
Im not saying WT damage models 100% accurate
Its a game after all but i still have less problems shooting down planes in WT
For example in WT the wing spar are modelled unlike in Enlisted therefore in WT a single 30mm can rip your wing off if you hit the spar

And i forgot to mention that i managed hut a Ju188 with a 76mm HE 2 times an gues what nothing happened
And even saw the shell explosion but i guess its “skill issue on my part”

if you never tried WT just give it a shot play it for a fee days in air RB
And you will se how Enlisted plane models are bad/broken

I have 10402 matches in realistic battles. Thanks for the invite but I quit War Thunder and I’m not going back.

I find that hard to believe as I’ve shot planes down with tank main gun a many times in Enlisted, 2 of which I have video clip of in this forum. Here is one of the clip of me shooting down a plane with tank main gun, https://forum.enlisted.net/en/t/i-have-my-revenge-on-a-stuka/95345/3. If you have a clip of you shooting a plane multiple times with a tank main gun with no significant effect post it in the forum.

Not a 76mm vs Ju188
But:
https://www.reddit.com/r/enlistedgame/comments/p81rjc/plane_vs_at_gun/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

75mm gun: 1 hit with AP and 2 hit with HE
You can even see the exploding shells
Yest the IL2 has armor but not against direct hits from a 75mm

yes planes damage models are broken

That was 3 years ago when Dark Flow was a 2 men operation having their main office in the backroom inside a redlight district. Any recent one? I never experience this personally.

Yes, I do not believe non-pilots understand that.

Just that the plane didn’t detonate doesn’t mean you didn’t kill it.

All planes are destroyed as soon as they get an oil/water leak. Some even just from damage near the engine. And when your rudder gets shot off, you won’t be able to aim at anything ever again and you’ll probably jump out.

But the plane kill may happen so delayed that the player responsible for it never realizes what happened - let alone those around him who saw the shots but do not get the notification. This all leads to the perception of planes being way more durable than they actually are.

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“ThReE yEaRs AgO”
“TwO mAn oFfIcE in ThE rEd LiGhT dIsCrIt”
“I NeVeR eXpErIeNcE tHiS pErSoNalLy”

You know that there is 1 man indie game devs also exist

“I NeVeR eXpErIeNcE tHiS pErSoNalLy”
if you never experience personally its not mean that its impossible

Im never experienced third type encounter with extraterrestrial beings but its not men they do not exist

“ReCeNt PrOoF”
You know peoples wont span in a tank just to trying to shoot them down with a tank shell

I gave you a proof about Enlisted planes are broken yet you wont accept it

Look you can get all emotional, expressive and get tilted as much you want, if this make you rage then you should take a long break from the internet. I just want to see recent proof not from one 3 years ago. I didn’t know asking for recent proof is akin to a insult in this forum or maybe it’s just an insult to you.

That how people type when they have no clever comeback or a valid response.

As i said before people not going to spawn in a tank to try shoot down a plane with the main cannon

But whatever buddy think what you want

It’s not quite like that. Sometimes a hit from a pistol is enough, and sometimes it can withstand a hit from the 122mm gun of the IS-2 tank.
Sometimes you hit it right and shoot it down in one burst, and other times you chase it and hit it with everything you have, and it keeps flying.

As if Oddbawz doesn’t get literal ghost shells phasing through enemy vehicles in his WT videos pretty regularly. Shit like that happens lol.
But it’s simply not true that airplanes in Enlisted are durable. Anything with cannons/big MGs will just shred enemy air. Small MGs are weak, as they should be, but even those will make short work of your enemies when you know what you’re doing.
The big jebait is hitmarkers - just because you’re getting hitmarkers, doesn’t mean you are getting good hits. Shoot too far forward and walk back, then you will be hitting vitals

The footage are 20mm though