Engineer tutorial

I agree. When attackers place spawn next to the objective they can easily take it just by the number of bodies the can throw at it nearly non-stop.

Initially yes, but when you are in a game for more than 10 mins and there are still no rallis built on your side then it is pretty obvious you should build one if you have engineer.

I have zero clue what this means

But you can have two in one place, making all this delicate balancing act go to shit.

Xp/min is like speed of getting xp. You have 2.5M xp in campagin, that the way. 500xp/min is how fast you get there, so it’s seasier to calculate how much time you need to get to specific level.
You have 30k xp in 30 min game, so on average you get 1000xp/min.
Bad players have half that, they take twice as long to finish campaign.
You never had physics or math in school?
When You afk half game, you play for 3 min, get 6k xp, You get bonkers 2000/xp min. You waste less time per campaign

You see in that, I agree if there is no other way for the mortar to support the team effectively enough.
But then we should also talk about other factors such as the ability of the team to take advantage of such support (smoke screen in Tunisia is cursed in an almost similar manner).

Wrong.

Two rallies that are in the same place count as one actually.
Now I don´t remember the exact distance needed for spawns to count separatedly or which one have priority, but you can´t just build multiple rallies in the same place and think that you can summon an entire team there within few seconds.
If rally that have priority is destroyed, inactive rally in that area becomes accessible.

Wrong.

Each rally has it’s own cooldown. My mates always asks me to place mine next to his, we never have to wait.
We even put up 3 in same spot, 3 squads can spawn in 5 sec

When somebody placed another rally next to mine I could no longer spawn at mine, it was not on map until the other one got destroyed.

I just don’t keep up with high school jargon. I really meant “ab out”

What matters is BASE XP, same for all players and isn’t inflated by premium, boosters or multipliers

This is NOTHING to be proud of and is actually exploiting a flaw in the game

Actually, he might be right on this one. It took me a lot od digging in old updates.

Rally seem to only display as one on the map, but technically it should spawn you on either of the existing rallies in close proximity.
If strategy @BandytaJeden describes actually work, those rallies do not share one cooldown and will end up being abused en masse, then it should be looked into and nerfed accordingly. I have personally never seen more than 2 rallies built close to each other tho (and even those two rallies are rare).
However, with the current level of teamwork we have in Enlisted, it is not very likely to happen… hopefully.

Base xp i calculated from score in weird way though, you noticed it yourself with engineer giving more xp than score.
I noticed the less score you have, more xp per score you get. This is plain stupid shit, the game doesn’t tell this to anyone, it’s all in some shady calculation no one knows how works.
I’m not proud to do this, but honestly who cares. Devs apparently only care when xp gets abused by milions on bots. RIP custom games last beacon of hope.
And the game doesn’t respect our time, with bs battlepass tasks that force you to skip them, so why should i slave myself everyday and play lost games carrying guys that play worse than bots. Any halfbrain will spare himself suffering.
I can explain it like to 5yo if you want, but i think people are smarter than they let on.

The leaderboard score has NOTHING to do with the base xp earned, at least not directly.
We can see everything about how base xp is calculated by reviewing the full battle report and hovering our mouse over each squad and each player, it’s not very complicated, but you can’t look at the leaderboard score and guess the amount of base xp earned

That what i’ve been doing.
Now get one squad, use it only once, and see that it get 1000xp from 400 score, meanwhile your squads that got 4000 score will get 3000 xp from it.
It’s not linear score->xp, and it factors things like engineer score even more, like you noticed.
So by playing less, you get more xp… i give up mate, i can’t explain this 5 times

There needs to be a tutorial that there are engineers in this game. I think some people don’t even use them. Then I see people running right next to enemy spawn point instead of destroying it.

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You haven’t explained it once…it sounds like BS that you are fooling yourself with

Last try, with pictures so no excuses.
Two first were berlin matches, only used infantry, never used engineers. (to make it simpler, calm down i use engineers)


1500 score gets 1652 xp, around 1.1 ratio
2289 score gets 1913 xp, around 0.83 ratio
2157 score gets 2090 xp, around 0.96 ratio

This second game i played each squad (used same ones) only once, then i watched youtube for 11min, so i barely played 7 min. (13k xp, divided by 7 min gets you bonkers 1800xp/min)
You can clearly see worst ratio is around 1, with 1104 score, with 1000 score team geting 1200 xp, clearly 1.2 ratio, not so high, but compared to 0.83 is actually significant.
Still i got to much score to highlight this problem, so i played axis tunisia with junkyard weapons and did like 5 kills on infantry squad just ot get lowest score.
Here it is:

420 score (nice), gets 893 xp, MORE THAN DOUBLE yee
But it gets better
225 score (shitty carcano 5 kills in 1 min) , GETS 727 XP, THREE TIMES RATIO
It’s consistent with dozens of games i played and checked it. Lower score, better ratio of score to xp conversion.
So in short less You play, more xp per score you get

Lol, You just don’t get it….you think you do….but you don’t

And You won’t specify, because let me guess, You don’t get it? wtf are you on about
Topic of disscussion is engineers, people doing jack shit instead of building rally points that win games.
We clearly see people need more encouragement to use them, in the event 3 days ago everyone was spamming it, they know how it works, they just don’t care.
You go on about some xp score calculation that we don’t know how works, gl trying to convince everyone to build them by comparing your screens to mine.

Why are You trying to win some non-existent argument, when we all agree we need poeple to build rally points, simple as that. And the response that brings nothing to discussion, just to be the last guy that said something and feel good about yourself?
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Really? You claim to be “speed running” to unlock the FG42 and then post bogus XP/min totals.
Look at your last screenshot….3240 total campaign xp in a 30:43 minute game….That’s 105 campaign xp per. minute…not the crazy xp you claim….what counts in xp in the game.
In that screenshot (which you chose to post because I assume it represents your typical xp earned in one of your AFK games), you are less than half way through level 5, You still need to earn over 1.6 million campaign xp tp unlock the FG42….that’s almost 500 games at 3240 xp per game.
Play like a normal person with a premium account and you would only need about 100 more games to unlock the FG 42……Your brilliant strategy to speedrun is actually dumb