Don’t nerf history. Stay historically accurate

Don’t nerf history. As a historically accurate gun planes dont go a nerf spree and ruin the game because of wining people saying ohh it’s to hard. War was not easy war was not fair. I love the realism

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This is pretty much a rant topic without any concrete examples.
If there are nerfs it is to keep the game alive. You can love realism all you want but if it leads to the game dying and the developers losing profit, the game will be gone and alongside your “realism” will die too.

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agreed if you want realism you can play post scriptum

A lot of people confuse realism with milsim.

Milsim is not ment to be fun. It is ment to be a simulation of reality.

Realistic is just realistic enough to be immersive, but not realistic enough to take away the fun.

What is OP even trying to say?

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What do you even mean? I can say the same to you - if you want fantasy you can play battlefield. It’s a pointless argument. Also historical accuracy doesn’t have to be un-fun or unbalanced.

Edit: Still, this thread is pointless as well. Is this a preemptive rant or are there actual examples? I can name a couple of issues with realism and historical accuracy, but it’s not like they were made in the name of balance either. It’s just weird and a mess, I wish the game had a clearer direction regarding realism, balance and gameplay.

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Historical accuracy isn’t possible in the environment the game leaves us with.

It’s not historically accurate for vehicles to teleport onto the battlefield rather than breaking down en route or suffering shortages. Nor is there a reasonable way to implement all historically-accurate weapons malfunctions and ergonomics differences.

Asking for perfect historical accuracy is asking the impossible, so it’s more important to pursue ballpark goals to provide a genuine feel.

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My main historical accuracy issue remains magic upgrades (weapon upgrades / perks)

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I’m sure even the staunchest proponents of historical accuracy aren’t asking for “perfect historical accuracy” in a game.

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I’m saying the people who ask for “historical performance” neglect that what they’re asking for is best-case-scenario performance which doesn’t realistically represent actual historical performance.

So you get vehicles like the KV-2 which were hot garbage irl and far outperform historical realities in game, but a nerf to them “is a nerf to history”

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Yeah, like saying we should add T-34 and KV-1 because historical accuracy, neglecting the fact that the ones used in Moscow were so rushed that there were no vision ports, requiring you to always have the driver’s hatch open and look through an open breech to aim the gun

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HOW will those ever be FUN?

They will be a pain to use, but a pain to kill because their armor and gun are so powerful

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I mean, not always, but it is accurate to say that fully-functional T-34s and KVs weren’t available in sufficient enough numbers in Moscow to justify by historical accuracy alone.

Balance with ballpark accuracy is the way to go.

That just sounds like proper balance. They’re not going to be all that oppressive to the German tanks if they’re that clumsy and have little way to actually see anything that’s happening around them. Shouldn’t this be a perfect solution by your own logic ?

They will only be frustrating. Soviets will complain about them not having proper sights and not being as “glorious” as they were ment to be, while Germans will complain about them having extremely superiour stats.

It will however have almost no impact on statistics. And people are complaining anyways.

And adding something that will upset both sides will only make that worse

tell that to the 4th Pz Division and the 1st Guards Tank Brigade!! :rofl:

A bit more seriously - people who think that “realistic=/=fun” need to understand that there is a community where that does not hold true.

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It’s not realistic =/= fun, but that there is a thing called “too much realism”
And the people in that community need to understand they are the minority and that most people have a limit on how much realism they can enjoy.

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Which survey shows that?

Also - it is up to publishers to aim for a particular market - and if they are aiming at the “realism” market then there’s plenty of arcade games for the other lot to go play.

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Everything that’s going to be added -no matter what it is- will make both sides upset. This is a non argument. You just don’t want those tanks to be added.