MKB in Moscow, tank from the future.
I’m more or less ok with gold orders, though i’d reduce them to possessing single gun.
I more or less agree with what you’ve said except this one. Its completely broken BECAUSE whole idea of Moscow campaign is that germans having worse armaments but better skills, strategy, tactics and superiority in airforce and artillery crush soviet defence. They did not have any kind of weapons from the future, while USSR could have had anything it ever produced or possessed before 1941 because its fighting on own soil. And of course if territorial rule applies to germans it must apply to soviet side. But what we have here is just the opposite. We have germans use all kinds of unlikely weapons, because soviets have better variety from the start, and you make soviet side look for excuses why it uses what it uses. Not why germans were given weapons they COULD NOT have used at all even in theory.
I do not like having AVT, AVS and especially Fedorov avtomat as common arms. They all must be gold order ones and limited (well, maybe except AVT being limited less, as it’s somewhat similar to SVT-40). I do not want to see any of those in research tree, though i’d like to have them in game in time period they were used in very limited amounts, so these guns would be special. Top soviet tier ought to be SVT-40, and nothing else, if we speak about rifles.
Speaking of tanks - well there’s this slow one whining about T-50 that was added only to save german butts from burning, as KV or T-34 (and as i said many times, 34-57) would be much more likely for Moscow theatre than this small series better armoured BT-7. Would any of reich fanboys feel better if there’d be T-34 instead of T-50, Matilda maybe, i do not think so.
MKB is, its small series gun in absolutely wrong timeline.
I guess we understand wunderwaffe differently. It’s not about how it’s played in game. It’s about should it exist or not, not to ruin the atmosphere of WW2 setting. Definitely all those MKB, Fedorovs, AVS and tanks from the future ruin this atmosphere for Moscow campaign that never existed before Enlisted in any shooter.
Sure, one is for middle distance shooting, while PPSh is for close quarters. You may spray with MKB and get easy kills on long distances, shooting in direction of a running squad, but you may suck big, when you try doing the same with ‘uber’ PPSh.
It’s like saying Stuka can not counter La-7.
MkB exist since 1940, the only thing stopping it from mass production was the mustacheman himself, there is no wrong timeline, the gun itself will reduce the german small arm logistic from 3 ammo type and weapons parts to 1 gun, which the mustacheman didn’t realize it
Funny that PPSH 41 has no problem shooting at mid range, that also goes for PPD34/38(level 11) and PPD40, all of them has more than 900+ rpm, and upgrading them is even more busted, I don’t understand why the soviet think that shite when I have 2 Assault squad in Moscow and $talingrad to prove that BS, and even more BS when some randos tells me the StG44 variant is better than Fedorovs, that just blow my mind
That’s the rub: they could have, but they didn’t. You can make up a story where they saved a bunch of federovs and t50s for the battle of Moscow; but that’s as fanciful as making up a story that German production of the mkb and pz4f2 started months earlier than is commonly accepted.
Neither of them have any historical evidence of being true, therefore both are equally as possible. You need to be consistent if you’re going to be bending history.
Eh. Did you even read what i wrote. I do not support having Fedorovs or T-50 in Moscow. But if we remove T-50, there are much better tanks to replace it. So i do not get the whine about T-50. It was added to prevent butthurt, but typically there’s no such thing that won’t cause reich fanboys butthurt if they would not be annihilating hordes of enemies like it was said in nazi propaganda.
And Fedorov wad added to counter MKB, while MKB was added to counter PPSh. And whole idea is - you make one idiotic decision, and to fix it you make a dozen more.
Why not to limit quantity of soviet stormtroopers exclusively in Moscow, and giving germans 1 or even 2 more per squad, but armed with MP40, instead of non-existant guns, if you want to balance out soviet drum mags.
Aswell as 85 mm soviet AA in defence of Moscow. Actually its canonic (cool joke, isn’t it?)
We’ve had quad flaks until one of the last updates, who cares?
If FF is on i do not mind any of your supercannons. Expecting whine if B-4 would be added though.
This is all just assumptions made by the forums, maybe they just added those weapons because they had to keep adding levels to keep certain types of players happy. I’d rather see more maps and game types added than more automatic weapons, but I guess it’s crazy to have a game that doesn’t add new guns every month. That’s just a digression though.
All I really care about is that people make arguments that makes sense, but instead most people are just pushing for their favorite thing with a bullshit argument as cover. That’s why these discussions never go anywhere
Eh, i guess everyone would be happy if they added Kursk with MKB and Winter war with Fedorov. I have no idea what kind of retard would be happy to see both in Moscow. Obviously one was added to “balance” out PPSh and the other was added to prevent whine because of adding lousy MKB out of its timeline.
I don’t have fedorov as my favourite aswell as i despise nonsense MKB in Moscow.
Moscow campaign ought to have PPSh as top tier soviet and MP40 as top german. But it would obviously cause german whine to give them wunderwaffe.
Well, maybe MP40 and PPSh are absolutely different and should not be mirrored? Also PPSh ought to have better stopping power, while MP40 has better in game.