The only way this game is going to survive in the long run is to put the campaigns into “theaters” so anything you unlock in said theater can be used on any map in that theater that is around the same time period ie: early or late.
A lot of people have been throwing ideas around and it needs to be done sooner rather than later. The more campaigns you add, will split the playerbase up even more and make older campaign unbearable due to 80% bot matches (looking at you moscow)
Yeah, progression system needs a major overhaul and splitting player base on campaigns has to stop.
lot of people are talking about this idea and i agree. for health of the game and uniting playerbase we need to unite theaters into campaigns.
problem is that devs wont really like it cause it removes lot of grinding from the equation. you remove normandy+tunis with western theater and moscow, berlin and stalingrad from eastern theater. so overall you are effectively making grind ~50-60% shorter cause lot of weapons overlapped between campaigns. and one of the major ways devs monetize is to make you so frustrated with grind that you decide to buy premium. but on another hand, this game will die with pacific campaign if they dont unite playerbase.
They can still add “battles” for cost that will tie into theater rotations. It’s just if you don’t have it you can’t play it. Then they can add certain vehicles or cosmetics that tie into that battle
To be honnest, even if I agree with the idea. But I got no idea how to implement it.
Let’s take an exemple, you want a unique progressive tech tree for weapons:
Just “like in Warthunder”
You want first to unlock semi auto for the Axis. So you start from the worst to the best.
Gewehr41>Armaguera>ZH-29>Gewehr43>FG42>FG42 II
The problem is: you are in Berlin Maps and Campaign. There is no Gewehr41,Armaguera, ZH-29.
So you will basically have to unlock 3 unequipable weapon before having something usefull.
I’m a gamer since a long time and I know lots of game mecanics. I just try to imagine what the devs could do. And I can’t find anything that will works without changing all the game. So my question is:
=> What system could work?
I don’t know really. But something needs to be done. The system we have now is unsustainable. The more campaigns they add the more the playerbase will be split. Then your going to have campaigns that are ghost towns. They need to fix it now with not that many campaigns up.
It takes with premium 2,5 days of play time to finish a campaign (at least for me).
With War Thunder i got 90days.
I haven’t unlock one jet yet.
I just want to say that to make you understand that Gaijin is used to more grind in other games, and if there is no easy solution there will be no solution.
I’m personally ok with the current campaign grind system
I think what they could do is add another game mode that allows you to play all Campaigns in a single playlist just like the previous Even Fight event, that allows you to at least grind each campaign
Yup, them adding new campaigns is the worst thing they can do. It’s hard enough as it is to get a few players on each team. Seems like the devs are going for a cash grab rather than the longevity of the game based on their decisions.
i would sort weapons by year they were issued. and you could only play early campaigns with early weapons. if you select higher year weapon, you cant play early campaign anymore, just mid late campaigns. and with early weapons you could play all 3 campaingns.
I mean that could work, but you also then have to have to put a retirement date on vehicles, so that you don’t end up with BT-7s in Berlin.
could be too complicated for (below)average player… imagine having 2 dates to work with. do you even know math skills of average zoomer?
That is a very valid point, however counter point, fuck’em.
well how else will zoomers will be able to learn math (the zoomer women will learn via fucking the entire town)
Please do not suggest they add a war thunder grind to enlisted
Just rework campaigns into Fronts + a division between Early War Tech Battles / Late War Tech Battles.
Also implement uniform customization in a way that you can have say a Rifleman II squad with multiple uniform sets, so when you get a Normandy match your squad will have uniform set A but if you get a Bulge map you will have uniform set B. This way you won’t have to worry about for example US troops storming the beaches of Normandy wearing winter trench coats.
Multiple, theatre-specific presets per faction?
When choosing and equipping your squads in the menu, you’d be required to set up a dedicated lineup for each available theatre. While doing so, among the weapons and vehicles (and squads?) you own, only the ones allowed for the currently selected theatre would be available.
Once that’s done, it would also be easier to add a “play any theatre” option.
It’s easy to fix, you would be unlocking 2-3 weapons at same time when you finish that progress bar on current weapon.
If I take back my exemple and use your solution, it means that after 2 or 3 unlock, you will have a FG42 II?
I can’t imagine what Mister W. would have said.
Some solution are cool when you think about it, but doesn’t work as soon as you try to draw some prototype.
At the end the only real problem is Stalingrad, Berlin and Moscow. That why people propose “eastern front”.
We can at least reduce the perimeter to this 3 campaign.