Continuously Adding Captured Weapons Is Not Good for the Game

Recently in Enlisted, there have been more and more attempts to give soldiers captured weapons from other nations. Personally, I believe this trend negatively affects the overall direction of the game.

Of course, it’s true that captured equipment was sometimes used in real wartime situations. However, if such weapons are repeatedly added in-game, it risks eroding the unique identity and characteristics of each faction.


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For instance, Germany received a shortened version of the PPSh, the U.S. got the German Ofenrohr, and now Japan is receiving the American M2 Carbine.
Just imagine a Japanese soldier using an M2 Carbine fighting against an American soldier with the same weapon — doesn’t that seem strange?

Moreover, reusing existing weapons and rebranding them as “captured” versions doesn’t feel like creative content, but rather a recycled copy of what we already have.


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As an example, the U.S. recently received the Ofenrohr, which is essentially the same model and stats as the existing German one. But the U.S. already had the M20 “Super Bazooka” — a weapon that would have made much more sense historically and thematically.

I’m not saying the game should strictly follow historical accuracy. Enlisted is not that kind of game — gameplay and balance also matter.
However, the continued addition of captured weapons gradually removes the uniqueness of each nation and makes the game feel less original.

If captured weapons must be added, I believe they should be limited to special situations — such as events or premium squads — not given out as regular equipment. After all, not every soldier in real history used captured gear.


German PPSh partisan premium squad and the Soviet MP40 partisan premium squad recently added to the game are good examples.
By limiting captured weapons to specific premium squads, the game maintains faction identity while still allowing players to enjoy unique weapon combinations.

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I am sure the super bazooka is post war but a prototype may have existed pre war, as long as it has the same stats and br as the offender I would prefer it to German hand me downs, that is as long as it’s not a weaker weapon. I agree to much copy paste would slowly erode the distinction between the four factions.

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Cold war addition. So doesn’t fit WW2. They should add 3.45 in RCL Mk I recoilless rifle instead
British soldier with a 3.45 in RCL Mk I recoilless rifle, circa 1940s ww2dbase enlisted

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I honestly feel like we’re going to see more capture weapons in the future, or the game is gonna be dead cause of Gajin/Darkflow decisions

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US and japan using Ofenrohr fighting each other in Pacific
100% fair and 100% cringe

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It is because there is no real economy in the game - every weapon costs “1 slot”, and ther are no limits on numbers for the most part

So there is no disadvantage to using something that (irl) cost 2, or 3 or 20 times as much as a BA rifle, the axis gets just as many tanks and aircraft and artillery strikes as the allies do in 1945, etc.

This is what happens when a “historical” game gets divorced from the things that actually did matter historically.

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Thank you for your post.

I agree.

Giving Japan a ‘captured’ M2 Carbine is disgusting.

The M2 Carbine itself should have been kept for the Korean War if DF ever makes a Korea campaign.

Yes, the M2 was used in WWII but only in the very final stages of the Pacific War. Certainly not by Japan.

I also agree it is very disappointing every faction now has the German bazooka.

I will never understand why people are so against historical accuracy in Enlisted.

It is true that Volksturm weapons in the desert for example was never accurate, but why did we need to go full Fortnite?

Enlisted has a good gameplay (well, mostly). I just want a WWII FPS that is not ultra realistic war like Hell Let Loose.

Note the difference between historical accuracy and realistic war. Enlisted is more ‘arcade’ style FPS which is a lot more fun, but HA means use actual WWII weapons instead of all this copy paste prototype fantasy weapon bullsh#t.

I was okay with prototypes and captured weapons for event or premium but tech trees? Really?

It is especially criminal when there is SO MUCH CONTENT missing that was actually used in WWII as regular equipment like a lot of UK and Commonwealth tech, in addition to France, China, Poland, Netherlands, Belgium, Norway, Greece, Yugoslavia, Thailand to name a few.

There are also cases like you posted where there is an okay option but DF just ignores it in favour of lazy copypaste.
From my understanding the M20 Superbazooka did exist in 1944 (though not used in combat). The issue is the rocket itself came postwar.

Now many of Enlisted’s issues are connected. Why do we need a better bazooka? Because tank nerds demand all their War Thunder heavy tanks in Enlisted which ruins the game.

Enlisted should focus on vehicles like halftracks, trucks, ambulances and jeeps instead of War Thunder with infantry.

If USA HAS to have a high level AT weapon, at the very least make it an Allied one.

I would further add that personally I would welcome the Korean War to the game. Although 1950-1953, the actual weaponry used was like 98% WWII era on both sides. Indeed the overwhelming majority of Korean War era tech is already in game. Even jets (DF could also focus on the early war when there were less jets).

So if DF added the Korean War, then the M2 Carbine and M20 Superbazooka would make more sense.

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you mean like there being only a few thousand fg42 and only being used by paratroopers as more a light machine gun and not a full caliber monster assault rifle we call a select fire but most call a battle rifle that was not really used until after the war you mean that history.

They should have turned the M2 carbine and the PPSH silencer into a squad and held an event. Maybe that’s what they intended, but they were too lazy to design anything new for TT.

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I am not worried about these few captured weapons on the current technology tree, they are completely inferior to other weapons, so it is still difficult for us to encounter them.
But let’s not have any more.

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What sucks is that there is DEFINITELY something in the games files that would’ve been better

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problem is that m20 that they developed during the war had same penetration as m9 bazooka. improved rocket that came in 1948 had better penetration.

Devs will add anything but event squads…
I can’t tell whether the devs dont care or are just lazy.

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which is why the allies need german at rockets, no enlisted segregation, defend equality

And begs the question why they need them in Enlisted but didn’t (so much) IRL, and why is Enlisted so divorced from that?

because enlisted is ‘balanced’
each team has two planes, two tanks, rest infantry
in real life by d day the german airforce was a shell of its former self
you dont need at rockets when you have air dominance
irl most german soldiers had bolt action rifles and smgs
no need for t20 becquse most germans did not have an fg42
whenever soldier in a faction has access to the best gear every faction need all the gear
if a tiger was spotted they sent five shermans
so unless we want the game to go a symmetric and historical allies get german at rockets

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I believe the only capture content should be special or modified. Japan did capture and modify a M1 Carbine and that would be fine but for some reason the devs just made up a M2! Cmon!

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Seeing Ofenrohr on the kill feed, destroying my team as a german really turns me off, it I just found it silly, same as panzerfaust but, the panzerfaust was widely used, still I would much rather see a soviet or angloid weapon instead. I have never seen anyone playing german partisans or the ppsh Obrez but yeah I still agree, I would really rather see these weapons limited to premium squads or event squads, not just there to be researched for a country that did not really research them? but just captured these weapons and was not really issuing them to all their army.

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arm them with a water gun as long as the watergun is as the watergun acts like a ofenrohr, the trouble no such weapon exists
a be of period pre1946
b be no bigger than the ofenrohr
c same penetration
d rate of fire
i would love a unique weapon but you would have to fiddle with the stats, if thats ok with you lets start a campaign

but if you want to just remove them or replace them, with weaker weapons, hard no

I honestly don’t care if they remove them or replace them, something has to be done allies right now have too much bs going on right now.

But if Allies will consistently get better stuff then can we at least give Germany bigger bombs as a norm and stop giving them tiny ass 50kg bombs? I’m tired of this bullshit its always asymmetrical balance until western allies complain enough and get to have equal footing in the things they were meant to not be as strong at. Yet Germany remains (mostly) the same on the things they were not good at.