Change the machanic of Deathcam/Killcam

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Quite simple, people explot this feature real often by running around with single soldier and to be killed by someone and instantly know the position of the enemy in realtime. Thats right everyone, In Realtime, its 100% accurate until he changes to another soldier and ground you immediately.

Im not encourage camper or sniper to be honest, but again, its quite annoying, i play assaulter/rifleman, i always moving around objective, and he just comeback and spray me immediately without any warning.

In fact, sniper is deadly because people cant tell where they are, everyone know White Death (Finnish sniper) Simo, He stayed in same position/place from morning till sunset, and manage kill 500 people in single life. Another example, Vasily, he only move once few kills, “FEW” not One guy who magically know your place instantly. Vasilly got take down, by mortar (and landmine) while Simo got by explosive bullet (i think its HE, idk) , not rifleman/assaulter who magically shoot you from 200m away.

Before you said “This squad mode is arcade mode”, AT and AA doesnt have deathcam/killcam btw, even arti. Thats not fair right? you can tell exact location from above/from ground. But game didnt tell you where they are. “Oh i cant see them also from far” then arguement “AI can see it” is not valid.

“Thats your fault, you camping” again camping is major issue here. But again telling exact location like this, even GPS not exist back there, its way too impossible.

“your fault, hiding in the corner like coward”, again, you know why battle of stalingrad takes so long? because they dont even know where the enemy are, it takes few hours to clear single house.

Problem : People use AI soldier not as second life, but as indicator to locate enemy. Which later to be exploit to get know where exact enemy place, include sniper/camper/grayzone tanker.

Solution : I take it example like Insurgency game, one of “realism” game, In insurgency, its just pitch black screen with red 1/4 circle tell where the bullet came. Even AI know your place, they cant pinpoint exact location like in game right now.

Also i dont push realism in this game or whatever, just make it bit fair play, and this deathcam/killcam is so exploitable for a game that have 5+ lifes in just press single button.

i also see this suggestion back in 2021, and 2 months ago.

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Yeah its already hard to avoid being seen with your ai squadmates running around out in the open

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Nope nope nope

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never did like kill cams

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Revenge killing, my old nemesis.

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I can’t understand somewhere between 40%-70% of this entire mess

Also, what kill cam? The red outline of the dude who killed you for .3 seconds when you die?

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I actually agree with this. Being able to switch between soldiers immediately after death is already such a huge advantage, no need for a kill cam.

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Simo häyhä was wounded by an explosive bullet shot by infantry. He did not get hit by mortar

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Honestly removing kill cam is a horrible idea that only encourages cowardly playstyle.
Most people asking for no kill cam just want to get in a good sniper position and keep shooting at dumb slow moving AI without consequences.
Besides it’s not like you can’t just kill his AI first so you don’t even have to worry about getting revenge killed, literally all that takes is half a brain.

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Imo we should remove the stupid red outline around the enemy. The rest can stay.

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Ah yes my bad, its explosive bullet, just check it, its Vasily that injured by mortar (and landmine). I edit my post. But again, my point still stand tho. Thanks for correction

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This one is alternative solution, if we keep deathcam/killcam, Anything just dont expose someone position with magic CCTV.

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Removing kill-cam will result in:

  1. More people sniping each other dicks instead of attacking / defending the objective.
  2. Longer matches (40- 50 min. instead of standard 20- 25 min.).
  3. Possibly more hackmeisters.

Shit idea :poop:

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well kill cam is both good and bad, we’d want to keep fluent flow of the match but from the other hand i just hate the feeling when i set up mg, good position, i kill 2 guys and the third comes out perfectly aimed at me and take me down.

i’d more like to have general position where i was shoot from rather than exact red outline.
then, you could make it show you general position your AI were shot from too, as a little trade-off.

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No

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I do want killcam removed, but its functionality can be replaced by the following mechanism
When the AI ​​encounters a battle, or when someone in the squad is shot, the AI ​​will start shouting the enemy’s location, such as “Twelve o’clock, sniper” or even provide more accurate information such as “behind the window” or “behind the tank wreckage” information
The only drawback in my opinion is that the devs don’t have the ability/time to develop such a mechanism

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Why are people always so salty about a sniper doing it’s job

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A long-lasting debate that has been going on for ages.

The most reliable option is for the sniper class to have special camouflage perks (similar to what was in the old H&G), which would allow the soldier to not have a kill cam. But I would only give it to the sniper class.

Another suggestion that I don’t see ever being implemented according to how the devs technically manage the game - are special uniform elements that would not only be cosmetic but also have a passive effect, be less noticeable, etc.

But I have to admit, what the OP wrote is simply hilarious, because when playing in a team, after connecting through discord, you can really manipulate the kill-cam mechanics, sacrificing soldiers tactically so that other team members know exactly where to attack. But for it to become a massive game-breaking phenomenon? I think no. Kill-cam will remain in this style of games.

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I think this is due to players’ lack of tactical awareness.
I can tell you that if you want to win, all you need is smoke arty, rush to and hide in the capture point no matter the cost, and don’t care about snipers popping up from random windows.
On the other hand, if there is no kill cam, players may not be able to counterattack snipers and really invest in capturing points.

I don’t get this. :thinking:

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Yes remove those deathcams so I can greyzone camp even better.
Now the enemy dont exactly know were to bomb you if you hide your tank in a bush.
With this change you can greyzone in peace without having to doge enemy bombers every 2 minutes.
The tanker will be cheering for this quality of life change if implemented. XD