We should nerf BF 110 too since its better than P38 at CAS by that logic
this - the nose guns of the A-20 are a distraction - it is not fast, and it takes ages to kill anything in hte air with anything except the 110 these days.
So you are probably giving up 2-3 bombing runs to chase a plane with it - and then youāll probably not actually be able to shoot anything down with 1 ammo load hand have to reload and go find hte target againā¦
I will chase a plane with ti if that plane flies right in front of me at a convenient angle - but thatās not very often.
The F-8 loses 2 of its 20mm cannon for being able to carry heavier suspended armament.
Iād guess that in Enlisted it might carry the same bombload as a stuka - 1 x 250kg (or maybe 500kg) and 4 x 50kg.
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considering that the americans start with the P-38 G, which itās has rockets, for later on unlock the P-51 C as first fighter.
than you unlock the A-20, which itās THE heavy bomber. for than, unlock another P38 J 15 which itās another bomber. and lastly,
you get the P47D that is a fighter bomber.
people wouldnāt mind if that thing only have rockets, or bombs.
but it has both.
while the germans get for the majority fighter planes with smaller bombs ( bf109 g6 ) or no bombs at all ( BF 109 G10 ). and lastly, we get the A-8 that only has rockets.
therefore, i donāt see why the P47 has to mount so many secondary armament despite being more agile than the A-8.
for what i care, fighters should not carry bombs. as you have bombers for that.
balance?
i wouldnāt necessarely remove it ( despite having valid replacements to fit the job and be somewhat at the same level of A-8s.
but to the very least, remove the bomb from it.
so that you donāt see entire explosive carriers.
That was a troll sarcastic postā¦
Same thing that I suggested. But for me A8 could also stay. Heck, how many 109 do we have, why not two FW190-s. But you probably have me blocked so you wont see the response.
Someone should compare if it is more agile than F8 with this bomb load as we are all guessing. I will compare them these days at 800 meters with these bombloads in WT.
i meant the A-8.
not the F-8.
my mistake.
The p38 is a fighter. The m8 rocket has less than 2kg payload. So that is around 16kg of payload. If you count p38 as a cas plane that means the bf109 is a heavy bomber compared to it and every single fighter in the game needs to get the designation attacker.
Had that discussion a lot lately. Just because the p38 unlocks at the same time as the bf110 does not make it a bomber. It still is a fighter with mediocre missiles.
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and thatās totally fine.
still, does not exscuse the P47 to be both.
yes, we can argue that the p47 is indeed a fighter bomber.
but itās not needed in a game like enlisted.
thatās the main point.
especially when the americans get enough bombers compared to the germans.
and those last, do not have any fighter bomber with rockets includedā¦
Why not? It gas way less payload than the A20 or the ju88. Its on par with bf110 which is also a decent fighter plane.
2 vs 2
Ju88 / bf110
A20 / p47
From all fighters bf109 has the biggest payload. Even after nerf.
exept the bf110 only has rockets, and not bombs.
the A20 has only bombs. the ju 188 has only bombs.
you see, thereās nothing that has bombs, and rockets.
outside the p47.
1 bomb and not 6. I dobt get your point. The 5 extra 250kg bombs are leagues ahead of any missile.
Bf110 gets a cannon. No one gets cannons. Quite unfair?
thatās the point.
Ju 88 only have bombs. and thatās basically it.
right now, without main weaponary itās complealty useless and even the p38 can shut it down without the Ju being able to do anything about it.
the bf110 itās okish.
but still, only have rockets and not bomb.
the A20, has a working gun, itās quite manouvrable, and above all, working machinguns.
the p47 itās basically an A20, mixed with the bf 110 but itās a fighter.
and you defend that asking why?
exept, this fire power itās not on a fucking figter.
fighters are meant to fight other planes. not take the bomber spots and do it faster.
because i donāt recall any fighters or any bombers having rockets, and at the same time, bombs while being manouvrable as heck because hey, fighters.
Will probably do for both of them.
All this mess is because of Ju188 and itās huge bomb load.
Which ammo does Bf110 cannon use? HE or AP?
the bf110 uses some sort of AP
So it is mostly useless even if engaging tanks from the rear/above.
That gun was supposed to engage Strategic bombers, not tanks. BF110 is too fast for normal pilots of that day to reliably hit targets.
Ju 87 and Hs 129 had a chance because it stall speed was lower.
But this is totally different topic and I donāt like to be accused of taking over threads as I have no intention to do so.
they do pen tanks
itās funny because in the game they are quite slow.
i guess itās somewhat late for that.
( considering that there are people still complaining about having somewhat balance between each faction )
Maybe they fixed it then in Enlisted. In WT it was very unreliable.
Probably guys in 1943 didnāt have mouse aim and instructor to help them out 
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