Then let us remove the rockets if we want to purely play fighter role. Why force us to carry those trash tubes.
You can remove them by pressing the fire button the moment you spawn or refuel smh.
P-47D-28 is way faster than FW-190 A-8…
just drop the bombs and rockets and go nyoom…
CAS feels pretty balanced in Normandy as well. Just the same as in other campaigns the 250kg+ bombs feel like nukes.
Only problem in Normandy at the moment is that the US fighter P38g counts as a attacker. So if newer players take that plane in the air US can not have a actual CAS plane.
Other than that both factions seem pretty even. Germans have a bit more raw power US has a bit more countermeasures.
Mind you I have the p47 fully upgraded and none on the FW so the stats for the fw should be higher when fully upgraded.
P47:
Speed: 700 km/h
Climb: 18.2 m/s
Turn: 19.47 sec
Fw190:
Speed: 721 km/h
Climb: 21.5m/s
Turn: 18.62 sec
On all fronts the FW190 is better regarding dogfighting / speed.
1 Like
Drag from the tubes and the unused bomb pylon is still there. If they even bothered to model the drag…?
And speed difference at low altitudes was not so drastic, FW190 even had an edge at some. Over 6km performance dropped a lot. But who mad will in this game go that high.
You can’t go this high in the game there’s height limit (last time I checked) but saying go nyoom was just slang for you can catch him.
Then it is not modeled correctly as A8 should at low altitudes be faster.
Idk from where you get your info but I’mma show you mine.
Most people are going to use stock/none upgraded planes and since both sides get the same % of upgrades The ratio stay the Same.
The P-47 can out speed the Fw-190 and even if it doesn’t…
Just boom a bit higher wait for him to dive to CAS or the like and zoom on him…
yeah and then an A-20 comes and kills the Ju-188 and continues to make more kills than the Ju 188 throughout the match.
No Ju88 makes more kills during a match easely. It has 3 drops of bombs and the A20 has 2. The mgs dont make that much of a difference tbh. If you go chase the enemy Ju88 thats a lot of lost time since the Ju88 is not a easy kill.
1 Like
Yes it’s the %5 mass increase.
But when you’ll get the next upgrade (10% more engine power) it will be fixed.
And since both sides get this %5 mass increase upgrade both sides are still equal…
1 Like
Ye true then indeed, didnt take into account the 5% mass.
But then the difference will be minimal. Turn rate and climbpower is still better on the fw though.
Good idea. They should also give Ju188 1 * 1000kg + 1 * 1800kg, and give 2 * 500kg back to Me410.
This would make sense. The A-8 was a high-altitude interceptor. The F-8 was a ground attacker with a supercharger geared for low-altitude combat. Though the FW 190 can shred the P-47 pretty easily right now if the pilots are on a similar level, the F-8 would dominate it in dogfights and have better ground attack than it does now. It’s a tough one.
1 Like
well, this one affect me as i have been one of the few that actually promoted for the introduction of the A-8.
the main reason why the A-8 has been introduced, was because there were actual historical squadrons during the normandy invasion.
unfortunately, i don’t find any references about the F-8s ( due to mostly shutted down, or lost records ) in normandy.
although, what i would like to mention,
the F-8 it’s much, much heavier than the A-8.
just to take stats from the actual and official wikipedia from war thunder,
this is an A-8:
this, an F-8.
against the P47D-28:
as you can see, the FW it self it’s not really " faster " than the p47. as such, make it heavier will not help or be beneficial at all.
so therefore, if we would like to balance things out, the P47 should be replaced, or perhaps limited. like, remove the bombs.
but this is just my opinion.
cheers.
His sources are in the description.
You can also see that max speed is measured at different altitudes. And different planes are sometimes faster then each other at different altitudes, mostly because of turbocharger or supercharger stages.
I would even try to find the charts and do more research, but the forum is too toxic for my taste.
At the end, I would like to see them both at that campaign. It makes more sense than the twin engine tactical bombers.
But this is just my opinion.
Cheers.
1 Like
Why?
The Fw is a fighter and the P47 is the 2nd attacker the US gets.
I would say the set up P47 + A20 is not as good as the set up BF110 and JU88 in the game. So if you remove the P47 US would only have the A20 and Germany 2 planes.
Germany has 2 attackers, why should we remove the 2nd the US gets or add a 3th for Germany when they already have the stronger part of the deal?
1 Like
I think they should leave the P47 as is, and they should just buff the 190. These being the highest tier planes for the campaign, they should be able to rain down hell and destruction.