Change the BR's of the m10, m18 and m4a2 76 (w)

I actually did, and it sucks yes, but we are talking about BR2, I dont want to fight those when playing with my Panzer III J, I do think that M10 has decent armor - well M18 has paper thin armor… I dont know… its true that the Marder tank has created some fuzz for having a pretty strong gun for BR2 but this is specifically do to KV1 wrecking everything below BR3.

Do you reeeeally think M10 in BR2 would make sense?

And Solid AP that deals no damage

I am pretty sure not many people would play it anyway. So I couldn’t care less if it’s going to be br2 or br3.

Let it be on BR3 then. But it’s just worse Sherman in literally every aspect.

What about gun? 76mm is stronger.

Slower reload and worse he but it does have bit better pen

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Pretty sure it can defeat Panther when being lucky and hitting the right spots in his gun mantlet, Sherman can’t.

I destroyed way more Panthers with BR3 Sherman (since the change to ammo types) than I did with M10.

Yes, you can in theory penetrate Panther that’s looking at you with M10.

Is that a a relevant advantage over Sherman? Not really. Since it’s still way more likely that Panther is going to OHK before you can do anything. As he doesn’t need to aim for turret or so.

And if you want to target Panther, who doesn’t know about you yet. It’s so much easier with Sherman because it’s so much more agile and you can react so much better.

Then it wasn’t me sitting in that Panther :slight_smile:

Well, if you are not aware of the other tank, or just ignore it for whatever reason (many people have absolutely incredible tunnel vision when they play tanks). It doesn’t matter who is sitting in that tank, since he simply doesn’t pay attention to you.

I literally just tested it, panzer 3 J can easily front pen the m10

sherman has a stabilizer too

M10 is slow open top with weak armor but has good 75mm gun, should be moved to BR 3. Long 75mm would be too OP in BR 2

Achilles is slightly superior, should remain at BR IV with its APDS, would put in 3.5 if this was like WT, it’s too good for BR 3 but not good enough for BR IV

M18 is difficult. It is very maneuverable with good gun, but Enlisted maps are small. Has very weak armor, and is open top. If we had maps like modded Big Action that let it shine it should stay at BR IV, but we don’t, so move M18 to BR 3 to be with M10

m4a2 76 w should be moved to BR IV, doesn’t belong with pershings or KT, I know it’s being looked at but I hope they move it soon!

What about Achilles? It’s basically the British version of the wolverine.

The apds is good enough for it to stay in br 4 but i wouldnt mind if they dropped it to br 3

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Why do you need 150mm of penetration against a tank with only 50mm of armor?

Edit: It thought you meant putting it in BR 2 but I was just to tiered still to read properly

I thought M10 has the same gun

All tank destroyers should be promoted, cause you hardly see them in game. And that’s totaly not historicaly accurate. So IMHO they could make a special slot for them which one could be shared with 1 infantry slot. I mean if someone doesn’t want to play a tank destoyer, still can play infantry squad on that slot. But if wants to, then has got + 1 vehicle slot. Also there could be given more exp. points for kills made by the tank destroyer ( I mean by gun and coaxial, not the personal weapons of the squad).

EDIT: And changing BR will have no effect, cause people will always prefer the rotating tank turret over the chassis of the tank destroyer very difficult to maneuver and additionaly with gun placed so low.

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It depends, a Jagdpanzer IV in BR3 would delete everything its facing, while also having a semi decent MG.

Once you as a tanker realise you are practically immortal to same BR enemy vehicles, choosing such tank would become Meta.

It all depends on map itself, map knowledge, level of enemies… But generaly playing tank destroyers in Enlisted is just a pain. And it could be nice from DF to compensate it, as I wrote before.

It probably does iirc, never said it didn’t