Change the BR's of the m10, m18 and m4a2 76 (w)

M10 is slow open top with weak armor but has good 75mm gun, should be moved to BR 3. Long 75mm would be too OP in BR 2

Achilles is slightly superior, should remain at BR IV with its APDS, would put in 3.5 if this was like WT, it’s too good for BR 3 but not good enough for BR IV

M18 is difficult. It is very maneuverable with good gun, but Enlisted maps are small. Has very weak armor, and is open top. If we had maps like modded Big Action that let it shine it should stay at BR IV, but we don’t, so move M18 to BR 3 to be with M10

m4a2 76 w should be moved to BR IV, doesn’t belong with pershings or KT, I know it’s being looked at but I hope they move it soon!

What about Achilles? It’s basically the British version of the wolverine.

The apds is good enough for it to stay in br 4 but i wouldnt mind if they dropped it to br 3

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Why do you need 150mm of penetration against a tank with only 50mm of armor?

Edit: It thought you meant putting it in BR 2 but I was just to tiered still to read properly

I thought M10 has the same gun

All tank destroyers should be promoted, cause you hardly see them in game. And that’s totaly not historicaly accurate. So IMHO they could make a special slot for them which one could be shared with 1 infantry slot. I mean if someone doesn’t want to play a tank destoyer, still can play infantry squad on that slot. But if wants to, then has got + 1 vehicle slot. Also there could be given more exp. points for kills made by the tank destroyer ( I mean by gun and coaxial, not the personal weapons of the squad).

EDIT: And changing BR will have no effect, cause people will always prefer the rotating tank turret over the chassis of the tank destroyer very difficult to maneuver and additionaly with gun placed so low.

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It depends, a Jagdpanzer IV in BR3 would delete everything its facing, while also having a semi decent MG.

Once you as a tanker realise you are practically immortal to same BR enemy vehicles, choosing such tank would become Meta.

It all depends on map itself, map knowledge, level of enemies… But generaly playing tank destroyers in Enlisted is just a pain. And it could be nice from DF to compensate it, as I wrote before.

It probably does iirc, never said it didn’t

Hello, what about the Su85, it is never used ATM, is that planned?

Just poison its ammo load with 33% APCR, 33% APHE, 14% Smoke and 20% HE

You know, the Na-To experience.

so you’ll have an immortal tank counter that does nothing to help the team

in other words having a troll

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If the primary concern people have is having a tank that can do everything at a lower BR, then the remedy is to focus on the purpose of having such a tank in a lower BR and reduce its flexibility to do anything else so that same-BR options appear viable.

It can still support infantry, but its limited ammo pool would encourage tankers to switch back to infantry sooner than if it was a tank with larger ammo pools.

No just no the M10 uses the 76mm M1 the Sherman uses the 75mm M1 in the early variants which fun fact is the same gun the lee and grant get at rank 2.

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ok its similar but its not a br IV gun… neither the tank is BR IV the Sherman is much better

well one could argue that 76mm is very close to German Panzer IV gun, so its close to that BR3 gun, yet instead I would argue that Panzer IV L48 75mm is more of a BR4 gun just with a tank that has poor turret armor.

overall I think 76 mm is more or less fair for a good BR 4 tank, but since they are open top and kinda trashy in general, lowering them (like Panzer IV is) to BR3 seems fair.

well you have the Achilles that is BR IV and its same tank with a better gun much better gun :smiley:

no post pen damage, worthless tank

M10 cant even pen nothing xD

head on at not too long range it should be able to pen panthers gun mantlet