Campaign for future: Battle of Turda

I would like to suggest one of lesser known battles, battle of Turda.

Battle of Turda
Hungary vs Romania

I would like to suggest some lesser known battle, but much more interesting. Battle of Turda battle betwen Hungarians and Germans vs Romanians and Soviets. But i would like to see mostly Hungarians and Romanians with theyr unique equipment. There is lot of unique weapons and vehicles both sides can use. Some of weapons are already in game, for example MG 30 or Vz.24.

Hungary:

Hungary mostly used domestic weapons, but they also had some German ones like MG 34 or MP 40 but would be nice if we could avoid those as we have seen them a lot in another campaigns.

Some Hungarian weapons:

FÉG 37M Pistol
FÉG 95M Rifle
FÉG 35M Rifle
Huzagol 43M Rifle
Danuvia 39M SMG
Danuvia 43M SMG (Folding stock version of 39M)
Solothurn 31M LMG (MG 30)
44M kĂ©zi pĂĄncĂ©ltörƑ vetƑ (Panzerschreck looking weapon with 60mm rockets)

Hungarians would also have unique tanks:

39M Csaba Armored car
Toldi tanks (Licence Swedish L-60 tanks, there were versions with 20mm and 40mm guns)
TurĂĄn tanks (Licence of Czech medium tank ST vz.39, there were versions with 40mm /40M TurĂĄn I/ and 75mm /41M TurĂĄn II/ guns)
43M ZrĂ­nyi II (105mm howitzer gun SPG on modified TurĂĄn chassis)

Hungarians also used Panzer IV H, Stug III G, Hetzer, Panther A and Tiger I, but those doesnt really need to be in campaign.

Hungarian Air Force had planes from another nations, they builded theyr own, but from licenses.
Some of planes are:
Heja I (Re.2000 build in Hungary under licence)
Me-110
Me-210
Bf-109 (F and G versions)
Fw-190 F-8
Ju-87 D
Ju-88 A-4

Romania:

Romanians use mostly Czech weapons we already have in Moscow campaign like vz.24, ZB-26 etc. Or Italian weapons like Beretta M38 SMG and Beretty M1934 pistol. Also MP 41 was weapon for Romania, but we have it as CBT exclusive soo i dont think we can count on it being there. Sadly Romania is much less unique as they mostly used foreign equipment and had only few domestic weapons.

One of some unique weapons are Orita SMG.
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But they have some unique tanks in theyr ranks.

Tacam T-60 (T-60 captured during operations Barbarossa were converted to SPGs with Russian 76,2mm F-22 field guns)
Tacam R-2 (Czech LT vz.35 tanks converted to SPG with 75mm Resita AT gun)
Mareșal TD (Hetzer like looking vehicle with 75mm Resita AT gun)
Vùnătorul de Care R35 (R-35 tanks with Soviet 45mm guns in turret)

Also Romania had some Panzer III’s, Panzer IV G and Stug III G.

Romanian planes just as Hungarian were mostly from another counties, they used:

PZL P.24
Hurricane Mk.I
He-112 (Unique plane even if it is German, as Germany didnt used them in WW2)
Bf-109 (E and G versions)
PZL P.37 Ɓoƛ (Polish tactical bomber)
PZL P.34 Karas
Me-110
Ju-87 D
IAR-80 and its versions (One of unique planes, Romanian domestic fighter and fighter bomber)
JRS-79 (Romanian version of great Italian SM.79 bomber)

This campaign could be something like 20 levels without Germans and Soviet or 40 level one with them, but i would like to have Hungarians and Romanians as much as they could be there.

Before all of you say that we need to finish curent campaigns, i agree, this is just suggestion for future if DF would like to have something unique that havent been in another game up to date. Hope you all like it and leave feedback if i forgot something.

EDIT:
I tried to do some campaign levels based on current moscow and this is how it looks, you can judge by yourself if it would be interesting campaign. (Ger) and (SU) means it doesnt belong to either Romania or Hungary.

Campaign:
2. SMG sq - MP 34(Ger) vs MP 28
3. Engineer sq - K98k vs Mosin Carabine M1938 (For German and Soviet squads as it is in Tunisia too)
4. Fighter sq - CR.42 vs PZL P.24
5. SMG - Danuvia 39M vs Beretta M42
6. Radio sq - FEG 31M vs Carabina U.A (Manlicher Carabine chambered for 7,92mm)
7. CAS Sq - He-46 vs IAR-39A
8. New tank - Toldi IIa vs R2 (LT vz.35)
9. AT Sq - Pzb 39(Ger) vs Wz.35 AT rifle(Ro)
10. MG Sq - Madsen vz ZB-26
11. New SMG - Danuvia 43M vs Orita
12. New Tank - TurĂĄn I vs R35 (45mm)
13. New MG - Solothurn 31M vs ZB-30J
14. Mortar Sq - 50mm 39M Mortar vs ???
15. Fighter squad Heja I vs Hurricane Mk.I
16. New Sniper - Pre-War K98k(Ger) vs Vz.24 IOR
17. Rifle Sq - FEG 35M vs Vz.24
18. Flamethower Sq - Flam 41 vs Flam 41
19. New CAS - Ju-87B vs PZL P.23B
20. MG Sq - MG 34 vs MG 34 (Or Soviet DP-27)
21. Engineer Squad - FEG 43M vs ???
22. Tank Sq - TurĂĄn II vs TACAM R-2
23. New At weapon - 20mm 36M Solothurn vs 20mm Solothurn S-18/100
24. Sniper Sq - Sniper 43M vs Sniper Mosin(SU)
25. CAS Sq - Ca.135Bis vs PZL P.37B
26. SMG Sq - MP 40 vs ZK-383
27. Radio Sq - Gewehr 41(Ger) vs SVT 38(SU)
28. AT Sq - 44M kĂ©zi pĂĄncĂ©ltörƑ vetƑ vs Panzerfaust 60
29. New Tank - 43M ZrĂ­nyi II vs Mareșal
30. SMG Sq - MP 35(GER) vs Beretta M38A
31. Sniper Sq - Gewehr G43(Ger) vs SVT-38 Sniper(SU)
32. New Fighter - Bf-109 G2 vs Bf-109 G2

Base squads:
Sniper - 95M Sniper vs Vz.24 IOR
Rifle - 95M vs Manlicher M95
Tank - 39M Csaba vs AB 41

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Pacific War - Wikipedia :triumph:

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I want to see Pacific too, especially Battle for Philippines in 1941-1942. But even lesser known battles deserve presence.

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I forgot myself, it’s too lazy to search the Internet.
Therefore, I think Romania will also have Soviet equipment and weapons.

Yeah most likely, Romania didnt really had domestic arms production.

Small countries simply do not have the resources to develop their own weapons.
As in other small countries of little importance in geopolitics.The Hungarians will have German weapons, the Romanians will have Soviet ones.It will be like Tunisia, but a little different.

Not really, Hungarians had good arms industry. They had theyr own weapons, tanks and they produced even planes in licence. Hungary doesnt need really much of German weapons. And Romanians use Czech ones. Did you even read a suggestion?

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I read it.And I don’t see 40 weapons and vehicles from Hungarians here.

And i writen some, not all of weapons.

If you dont like it, okay, i wont force it to you, but i would like to see some another nations another than Germany all the time.

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And I would like to see Hungary\Romania\Bulgaria near Moscow.

None of them were near Moscow, Bulgaria didnt even send troops to eastern front. Hungarians, Romanians and Italians were on southern front.

Near Stalingrad,Kiev,Uman and etc.
Did the Bulgarians even fight for the Soviet army?After the Soviet troops marched through Bulgaria?Then it would be possible to add Bulgarian weapons to the Romanians, they probably also had something.

Thats southern front. All of those battles.

Bulgaria didnt fought soviets, they changed sides and then fought against Germans in Yugoslavia iirc.

That’s what I’m talking about, did the Bulgarians fight with the Romanians \ Hungarians in 44?

I dont think soo, Romanians changed sides around time as Bulgaria iirc. And Bulgarians didnt fight vs Hungarians anywhere iirc. Also Bulgarians weapons are same as Romanians, mostly Czech ones, and German ones. Also some Mosins.

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In general, the Hungarians have enough weapons for the initial levels, and then there will be standard Germany weapons.

Hungarians can easily have 20 level alone, maybe more, i would have to do campaigns levels as it is now in enlisted campaigns, but i think i could do even at least 25 levels for them alone.

I think they are more likely to be in premium squads.in the Stalingrad campaign, but they will not do it specifically for them yet.

Eh, i dont think we will see Stalingrad, i would rather see my suggestion than it tbh. And i want Hungarians as free nation rather than premium.

As I remember, they used to want to make Stalingrad, not Berlin.Stalingrad was even chosen by vote.