how are people supposed to take you serious?
-FNAB needs a buff-
“FNAB is bad because it uses 9mm, don’t like it just pick 45 ACP”
-Germany has no 45 ACP-
“LOL PATHETIC CRYING ABOUT NOT HAVING 45 ACP”
you sir should take a break from the internet, your recent shit posts are getting out of hand
…it was a joke? Hence the “in all seriousness” following that sentence? Look man it ain’t my problem if you people don’t understand the concept of humor. Dang there really must be Germans round here, huh?
All the guns chambered in .45 do the same damage (M3, Thompson)
All British guns chambered in 9mm do the same damage (Sten, Lanchester)
All German guns chambered in 9mm do the same damage (MP38, MP40, FNAB, etc)
It’s a simple fact that their damage is based off of their caliber. And while it’s been proven .45 and 9mm have essentially identical close range ballistics and damage to the human body, I’ll take my damage buff when it’s given to me. Lol
German SMG’s are just kinda subpar all round. I like the FNAB, the MP40 was alright, MP38 was sufficient
Your strengths lie elsewhere (MG’s, StG, armor)
so? whats your point?
lol, 45 was so successful that US decided that it was too OP and switched to 9mm.
Keep crying.
The reasons I’m finding online vary from the Beretta being lighter than the 1911, to it being easier to qualify with 9mm, to mag capacity, to overall carrying capacity, to NATO standardization. Any of which could have been a factor, or none of which. The reason stated in the video is to save money due to the price difference in .45 ACP and 9mm
And yes, .45 ACP is OP. Anti Cow Projectile.
Chauchat got highly buffed accuracy now.
In fact. Chauchat is now one of the best “semi auto” rifle there is 
I know a guy here in Europe who owns a M1911A2, it’s a timeless gun, really great design but that doesn’t change the fact that 9mm is the more optimal round for war, all nations during ww2 that standardised their first large scale SMG chose 9mm.
I remember seeing a video in which a guy asked people new to shooting guns to rate rather Mp40 or Thompson M1A1 is better and all of them picked Mp40 due to less recoil.
Yeah. It’s a smaller projectile. It has less power behind it. That’s how bullets work
False, Sten does 5.5, MP-40 does 5.8, MP-35/I does 6.0, but to be fair the Sten has the shortest barrel, (7.7 inches) MP-40 is in the middle, (9.9 inches) and the MP-35/I has the longest barrel but I can’t find any sources on its length.
Now as for Japan, Caliber doesn’t mean shit, first off, 8×22mm Nambu historically had half the power of 9×19mm Parabellum and almost a quarter of the power of 7.62×25mm Tokarev, but the 8×22mm in game (only for the 3 different Type 100 SMG variants) has 6.0 base damage and when fully upgraded it does 1.0 less damage than fully upgraded .45 ACP.
This makes the Type 100s the best Japanese Smgs because the other 8mm Smgs like the Type 2a deals 5.6 Damage and empties its magazine so quickly and feels so weird I think it’s the worst SMG in the game.
Also 7.65×21mm Parabellum gets the special treatment as well, in the S1-100 it does 7.0 Damage when fully upgraded even though the round historically was 25% more powerful than the 8×22mm Nambu, in the MP-28 the 7.65 suddenly does PPSh-41 damage with a fire rate of 550 when fully upgraded, this is abysmal since it has ×3 the Recoil which means if you miss just 1 shot, it could be what costs your life.
Here is the power levels of the mentioned cartridges out of a pistol:
8×22mm Nambu: 200 ft/lbs at muzzle
7.65×21mm Parabellum: 304 ft/lbs at muzzle
9×19mm Parabellum: 338 ft/lbs at muzzle
7.62×25mm Tokarev: 401 ft/lbs at muzzle
One last thing I would like to point out is that 7.62×25 Tokarev would be much higher if shot out of a SMG, in a pistol length barrel only 70% of the powder is able to burn before the bullet exits the barrel, the powder was also designed with a medium burn rate which makes it perfect for SMGs with 10 inch barrels.
Hmm
Well I only looked at a handful of them. Looked at the Red Coat ones, looked at the Thompson’s and M3, and looked at a few Kraut ones and noticed a pattern in all of them. Easy to come to that conclusion when I just so happened to notice something looking at a few of them
In Enlisted, if your SMG goes below 500rpm, .45 ACP gonna have issue shooting at moving target + the crap dispersion beyond close range
9mm has almost double the projectile speed the .45 has…
Projectile size doesn’t matter that much, mainly the bullet weight, powder charge, and velocity is the important part.
8×22mm Nambu which fires a 100 grain bullet at 1,000 fps only delivers 200 ft/lbs of energy while the smaller 7.62×25 Tokarev fires a lighter 85 gr FMJ at 1,540 ft/s with 446 ft/lbs of energy.
Mainly the smaller bullet (also known as smaller grain projectile), and less power behind it (how much powder it has which is one factor that directly relates to velocity in tandem with grain and barrel length)
In reality 45 ACP and 9mm have the same stopping power, because 9mm has a bit more velocity which basically makes it have about the same impact energy of 45 ACP. So trading less ammo capacity and more weight for almost the same performance makes no sense.
45 ACP is outdated and obsolete, the US has changed to 9mm for a reason.
Now - there is however a special scenario where 45 ACP performs much better than 9mm, and that is in regard to hollowpoint projectiles, more mass benefits greatly from this so 45 ACP can still today make sense for usage in the Police force.
After all its a game where every gun should have their buffs and debuffs, but the guns i reported have more minus then plus, thats sad.
I was so happy about that 1888 buff and hope they test and play every single gun and rework them.
It dont have to be historical its a game, it only should fullfill their Role.
A MG have the Role to kill Masses in Seconds iMo MGs are Watering Cans where you can be happy if you kill 3 Enemys with 1 Mag.
I have shooted a Enemy 5 times with slow DeLisle thats crazy.
Welrod i needet in one Situation 6-7 Bullets, ok he was behind wood but please…
Indeed the game already balances itself with fantasy stats, which are especially apparent with rates of fire.
There is no need to 100% adapt bullet performance based on real life. But a certain degree of believability should be expected. I mean in the end damage to a body isnt just simple physics. There are alot of attributes that need to be considered to actually say “how much damage” a bullet does.
Its great to say “bullet A has such and such power behind it” but that can also mean that the bullet travels through a target and exits it without transferring its energy fully into the target.
So to speak “damage” in real life is already a topic up for debate and not easily defined, the game doesn’t need to go down this line.
Simply saying 9mm does less damage than 8mm kurz is enough for realism sake - and then balancing the rounds around the weapons and overall performance that would be expected from both weapon types.
I understand this Balance, Silnced Gun are silenced but weak.
But on the other Hand its a Special Operation Gun 007 and should kill instant.
Which other Guns needs Buffs too? I have the feeling i missed alot…
I think about Revolvers we all agree… should have more Damage. Pistoles higher Rof and lower DMG, every other Shooter handles this way
Meanwhile Welrod feels like the Kolibri from BF1, Problem is Bots make 360 and laugh about you
Literally already addressed this