Buff the PPS-43 to better meet expectations

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In terms of TTK, the PPS-43 is inferior to most BR2 weapons:

MP35

M38 42

MP40

Lanchester

ovp M1918

M1A1 Thompson

Beretta M1918

7.63 Thompson

UD M42

Owen Mk 1

Owen .45

URAGAN

and even BR1’s

M38A

PPT27

PPD34 (box)

Even without considering TTK, the PPS-43 is not in the top tier in BR2 when it comes to damage per minute.

ovp M1918,

M1A1 Thompson,

Beretta M1918,

7.63 Thompson,

UD M42,

Owen Mk 1,

Owen .45,

URAGAN,

and even BR1’s

PPT27,

PPD34 (box)

The PPS-43’s stats are too poor and completely fail to meet expectations. I suggest increasing the PPS-43’s damage to 6.8~7.0.

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lol

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Could you expand upon how you came to your calculations? I don’t understand how the PPS-43 is slower than the lanchester. Yes, the lanchester has 0.1 extra damage, but it’s 100 rpm slower and has a 50m/s velocity difference as well. Even the damage at 100m isn’t drastically different, at 3.3 compared to 2.8 (who actually consistently uses SMGs to 100m?).

Lanchester

PPS-43

So, what we’re going to do is make a better M1A1 Thompson, which was previously BR III, and put it into BR II against opponents without body armour (Soviets are the only nation with body armour) and arguably against the weakest SMGs in the game.

M1A1 Thompson

M38/42 Beretta

Besides, this is Enlisted, where you try to wipe a squad of 5 or more people at one time, not Counter Strike where you only have to kill one dude faster than the other. So how fast a gun can kill one person is kind of pointless as most guns that are like that have no squad wiping ability.

Massive skill issue

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German BR2 will fall into hell, I guess.

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well, soldier with vitality have 13.5 HP
6.7 * 2 = 13.4
6.8 * 2 = 13.6
That means lanchester can do 2 hit down in extreme close range
Tokarev pistol cartridge generally have the lowest damage in game, that’s why they have higher TTK in theory.

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I understand now. But that’s the issue - in theory. Accounting for ping, body armour (if applicable), dispersion, player’s individual reflexes (such as time to obtain sights etc.), would provide a better comparison as Enlisted is far from a perfect game (and yes, I know it’s probably impossible to calculate and collect the data for all those issues).

I still stand by the fact TTK is kind of a stupid metric in Enlisted, when the only competitive thing in this game is who has the lowest ping.

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but it’s already in hell, isn’t it?

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Beretta 1918 could barely cope with PPS and Uragan until PPS’s damage really reached 6.8-7.

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If the German main force feels that 6.8 damage is completely meaningless, then this topic will not have any impact. :rofl:
(I still remember how they refuted me when I mentioned 6.8 damage.)

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Buff Tiger II H - it has too poor armor

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Nerf G41 - it reloads too fast

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RD44 is too limited - it should be usable for troopers.

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That’s not even true, as vitality perk is not standard on BR2.

It’s really hard to tell if this is just a troll post or sealclubbers attempting to push for even harder powercreep with some pseudo BS reasoning as usual.

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I think pps only the spread is awful…for the damn balance
just fix the spread

What do you mean by fixing it? To make it on par with PPSh box?

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Aka… this is a skill issue?

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That’s right, but the German main force always believes that their enemies have bulletproof vests and 13.5 HP.
They wouldn’t consider RD-44’s 9.9 damage as a disadvantage when evaluating it,they also do not consider SMG with 6.8 damage as an advantage.

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Dunno, looks more like we should buff the Thompson.