Bring Panzerwerfer 42 and Dicker Max to BR3

You don’t see open top tanks of any faction for the reason stated above, not just the Dicker Max

This is a completely false statement. M8 scott or PZ III N are much better HE spammers. Because of the pure rate of fire.

Dicker max is a glass cannon with a relatively slow rate of fire. Yes, it can OHK basically all tanks of enemy factions. But if he ever screws up the first shot, it is going to be a quick end for him.

You obviously don’t own this vehicle and your arguments are based on assumptions only. Dicker max was not OP even back then. And using it for a longer period of time is definitely not fun, it gets boring very quickly as it has incredibly slow and cautious gameplay. So I’m really not worried about it ever becoming meta on the BR3.

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My point is there is NO OTHER HE SPAMMER THAT CAN DEAL WITH NEARLY EVERY TANK IN THE GAME. Yeah the m8 scott or PZ III N might fire faster but your not dealing with tanks of your own tier let alone top tier tanks. Also larger HE radius is a huge improvement since it allows you to clear rooms you wouldn’t have been able to do with Smaller HE shells. E.g you can hit the back wall of a large room and kill people who are laying just behind the window you shot through, the M8 scott cannot do that. Or shoot through the top windows of warehouses to hit the ceiling and kill infantry below. If you’ve not realised you can do that with the larger HE then i’d be surprised.

The Dicker max would be an anti everything tank which there are non at BR 3 or below with the exception of the PZ 4s. I’m amazed how you don’t see this affecting the balance of other factions. The fact its not fun to play shouldn’t have an impact on its effectiveness. Like i said multiple times ALL OPEN TOP TANKS ARE EQUALLY VULNERABLE BUT OFTEN HAVE WORSE GUNS.

I understand you want to be super strong and kill noobs at below BR 3 with your big gun because otherwise it’s not viable. But doing that affects the balance for every other faction. Should all open top tanks be BR 3? despite on paper the Dicker Max being one of the strongest. The last thing we need in BRs 1-3 is a anti everything tank, especially if you want to actually keep new players. As i stated many times before the German tanks are already some of the best in the game so why should they get more “Buffs” the their line up without other factions getting something similar or better?

First of all, dicker max isn’t spammer with its fire rate. Or are you calling IS-2 or SU-100 HE spammers?
I highly dobt so.

So what? Like I said, it can easily be destroyed by any tank in the game.

Lmao, I don’t even play BR3 because this BR is extremely frustrating for me.
I might as well say you’re too insecure about the tank, since you don’t own it yourself. And so you’re afraid someone might use it against you.
But I’m not gonna take it to a personal level.

Anyone who currently owns a panther would never trade it for a dicker max. Why?
The only thing the dicker max has better is the blast radius.
While the panther can have up to 2 MGs, turret, better speed, better armor (and maybe a better pen, I’m too lazy to check atm). And if you don’t know, there are already 2 premium versions of panther at the moment. So even grind is not a reason to choose dicker max.

As long as dicker max is on BR4, it will be a completely dead tank.
It’s nowhere near the HE spammer that calliope currently is.

You basically know nothing about this tank. And your arguments are based on assumptions or unrealistic and unreasonable scenarios.

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its a glass cannon and a premium, what is your problem?

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Panther has around 130mm of pen, Dicker has around 150mm of pen. I don’t know the HE radius but it should be better than the panther. So the Dicker has a better gun than the Panther at the cost of protection a RoF, which seems fair to me. Personally i think premium tanks should be niche and the Dicker Max may well have the best gun in the game apart from top tier tanks. There is no comparable gun to it at BR 3. Yet there are tanks with worse guns and similar vulnerability at the same BR like the Na-to. Just compare it to other BR 3 tanks.

If used correctly it could dominate simply due to its gun performance. Yeah i don’t wanna face it at Below BR 3 since most of the time when im getting shelled by something like the M8 scott or Sherman 105 i know if i jumped in my tank i’d be able to deal with it easily. That’s the trade off for better HE.

I still think improving the Matchmaking so its BR - +1 would make it more viable at BR 3 and i think that should be their priority and focus on moving BRs around after.

oh really?

Computer says naaah.

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the dicker max is so slow, so fragile, and the crew is vulnerable to even the most random shards of shrapnel

it should go br3

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If only this information was available in game. where did u find this?

And not to mention that the soviet have P40E1 and IL2 at br2 that can easily destroy Dicker max even with missing bomb and bazooka

honestly lowkey a normal frag grenade should prob wipe out the entire crew if you didnt feel like just walking around and shooting them all

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Here.

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i know i have that happen to me before

stop copying my posts :stuck_out_tongue:

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Ohhh xDDD sorry bud, I completely missed them xDDD

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So is the argument that all open top tanks should be lowered a BR? or do you think only the Dicker should be lowered? Because from what i can tell the argument is that because it’s so vulnerable it should be lower BR despite its guns performance? Also dam Germany’s tanks guns are strong.

yes all open top should be lower br in the first place (at least imo)

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i cannot find that page in the document anywhere lol i must be blind.