Bring Panzerwerfer 42 and Dicker Max to BR3

Yes. M18 hellcat should be at br 4 or 3, m10 gmc should be br 3 and su 76 should be br 2

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I don’t have much of a problem with that since tanks are affected by BR the most. Currently there is no reason to bring something like a Sherman M4A2 into a BR 5 match since it would just be cannon fodder whilst the M10 might stand a chance against the BR 4-5 tanks. But if they ever do improve the Matchmaking it might have to be rebalanced again.

M10 cant do shit against infantry. With m4a2 you can easily avoid being spotted by king tigers if you have little map knowledge but you cannot avoid infantry with the m10. M10 also lacks coaxial mg and it has horribly slow turret rotation

Here you go

I love open top tanks…I love to count the points stacking up as I fly by. pew pew

Yeah i think the M10 would still be crap because it doesn’t really work well in Enlisted with its relatively small maps. But tanks can sit in the grey zone and for the most part not worry about Infantry. There are few places on each map you can be “safe” from a king tiger so “easily avoid being spotted by king tigers” is hard. Once you get spotted by anyone that tiger will be wanting your life since it knows it can likely kill any tank it faces. If you sit back the slow rotation and lack of coaxial doesn’t matter as much, only the capability of the gun and its ability to take on other tanks. Of course still easy targets for aircraft if tagged or in the open, like most other tanks only they don’t need to use bombs for open top.

Maybe if the enemy team is bad you can get away using BR 3 tanks in BR 5 matches since your unlikely to be tagged but realistically it’s not worth doing. Unless you use something like the PZ4, Since the BR 3 Shermans cannot even deal with Panthers let along tigers.

M10 is extreme trash in comparison to PZ IV.

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yeah better HE, AP and protection. There are a lot of balance issues that i’d like to be sorted before attempting to make mostly useless tanks slightly less useless.

The biggest joke in the matter of balance is chi-nu. Which is basically equivalent to Pz III J1, yet is still on BR4.

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Yeah that’s why i thought in comparison to similar tanks in other factions the Dicker doesn’t seem that bad at its current BR but that’s more of a problem with the games MM and balance then the tank itself. I’d rather them spend time fixing that as a whole then changing something minor like the Dicker Max without changing the other worse balance issues.

Dicker Max is still trash in comparison to its BR. Literally the worst german BR4 tech tree tank (Pz IV H) is better in basically everything except for blast radius and ±10mm pen difference.
(maybe JP IV is even worse than H, that’s debatable.)

But it has better mobility, better armor, turret, 2 MGs.

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Now compare it to similar tanks of other factions. Like i’ve said 3 times now, German tanks are generally stronger than tanks of other factions so only comparing it to other German tanks will make it seem worse. Just like if you compared a Sherman to a PZ4, the Dicker Max to the M10 or Na-To. Panther to Sherman 76 and so on. I think using Germany as a standard for German tanks will only make have a bigger gap between them and other factions.

Balance should be done from other factions tanks at similar BR. Unless you are denying that the Germans have some of the best tanks atm.

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Only in high br. Kv 1 has the best armour in t3, shermans have best 75 he, t34 has decent armour and greater mobility than pz 4. German tanks are not that op in low/mid br

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According to that data sheet the HE is the same for PZ4 and Sherman 75. Only PZ4 has much better AP, able to deal with even the M26. While the King tiger and tiger is impervious to the 75mm, even the panther is practically. Also PZ4 has more armour and only slightly less maneuverability.

Dicker was fighting KV-1 and weaker tanks for years since it was a Stalingrad exclusive. KV-1 can shoot just once and destroy Dicker since it has pituful armor, even T-34 was a threat. You forget that it’s a TD not a tank with a turret, it can be easily destroyed by a plenes, AT gunners, mortars, arty, or as mentioned earlier any tank of BR3.

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yea and it may look intimidating but you have to remember that it armor is only 50 and if enemy shoot at the track it basically dead

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or if enemy rushes you with a bottle + axe then you may as well think about life for the last time before he will shot your heads off and finish with a nice explosion

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i have bigger problem with KV1 that cant be penetrated by most BR1-BR3 german tanks than with dicker max that can be penetrated by almost every ussr (except 2 tanks) and almost every usa tank (well except m13 if you count it as a tank).

if kv1 is on BR3 than dicker max can be on BR3. or we could just ship KV1 to BR4 as well…

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Another German crybaby monkey
Isn’t it enough that you have high-explosive shells that can be loaded in 2 seconds?
The level 2 anti-tank grenade gun is enough to fight all tanks head-on.

KV1 is afraid of any long-barreled tank gun above 50MM
105 has no armor-piercing bullets
Maybe you should learn how to use your strengths
Instead of being a monkey that cries all day

Heat is better and it’s limited for Stalingrad tanks only, besides M8 scott can spam them too both HE and Heat and yet you don’t see any issue in your blind bias. And what about M1/M3 of USA and Soviets you have 2x HE spamming cannon and multiple MGs, Soviet T28E has 3x MGs for mowing down infantry which are even more useful than rng HE that barely works in current awful netcode.

both are dogshit with loading time that is 2-2.5x longer than overpowered rocket launchers of the USA and Soviets

nope KV-1 is not afraid of anything, they need to aim to kill you, while you can aim where ever you want and still score a kill

but what a braindead Allied player would know you never play as the Axis or even try to analize how weak they are compared to other nations especially at BR2/3 there are no reason to play as such weak nation

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