BR weapon & Vehicle adjustments

Firstly, I would say this needs to be broken down into multiple patches to see how it shifts before going on to the next, probably best by weapon type (ie SMG, Semi Auto Rifles, Sniper Rifles, etc).

At current: The ONLY two factions where BR IV matters is Japan and US. So any change between IV and V and vice versa on Soviet and Germany trees are irrelevant until we get an additional matchmaking group. The same is said for BR I and II and vice Versa.

Generally speaking for small arms we see:

BR I & II :

  • Bolt Actions and Shotguns
  • Stripper Clip Semis
  • “Thumper SMG’s” / High RoF SMG’s with limited ammo capacity
  • Low RoF Machine Guns
  • AT Rifles

BR III:

  • Introduce Magazine Semi Autos
  • Higher Quality SMGs such as the PPSH41, MP40, and some Thompson models
  • Box Magazine SMG with higher RoF / controllability / movement penalty

BRIV & V

  • Introduce High capacity SMGs
  • Introduce Auto / Select Fire Rifles
  • Belt Fed LMGs
  • Introduce Assault Rifles

I think this is a good balance that should be kept with limited exceptions.

A lot of these seem to get away from that generality just to see them used more, however in doing so, will make other weapons just not used instead.

I disagree because:

  • Most of what you proposed is to reduce br of stuff… But in doing so, in such a wide manner, would make br irrelevant. It was created to “protect new players”…

Those br would make current br 1-3 almost the same as pre war thunder patch Moscow campaign.

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Does the OVP also have 0.25 dispersion?

Germans have MP28 with superior 20 mag so they should be fine against drums.

I give him credits that he doesn’t discriminate like a main at least. Every faction has their stuff lowered, mostly.

But seriously. Things like Churchill at br2?

P47, tier 3??? (That’s the most ridiculous)

At this point it would be more sane to ask for the removal of battle ratings, as there would be no point to it.

Issue is BR3 sucks against BR5 mostly.
Solution is to make either BR3 or BR1 sole queue and merge the remaining two, but we need to wait until DF collected their data.

That P47 is the event one with M8 rockets which is significantly worse than the BR 5 variant.

How does it make BR irrelevant? My suggestions are to put some weapons at the start of BR 3 into the end of BR 2 so that BR 2 players can compete better with BR 3. Same as some weapons from BR 4 into BR 3.

BR 4 is basically just a stepping stone for Germany and the Soviets, that’s why I said to move double up weapons like the Federov, PPD40 & MKb. Those weapons will get replaced fast at BR 5. I do agree that BR 4 in those countries are irrelevant though.