Body Armour should be purely cosmetic, remove the 10% damage reduction from it

If you hide them well, you will have an extra chance of resurrection, which is useless?This means that you can stay in key positions for a longer time, which is of great significance.

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again with dishonesty. you dont control 9 fg42 2 nor 4 fedorovs. you control 1 fedorov or 1 fg42 2. and fedorov>fg42 2 when you have body armor. they will both down with 1hit on ~same range(well fg42 will have few meters advantage). fedorov also has better recoil and larger magazine.

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Which “only” requires safe spots within 50m and AI actually following the order.
In order words, pretty much dependent on maps and a unreliable AI.

Can’t a shooting speed of 830 quickly eliminate a 7-person squad? You only need a maximum of 2 magazines. Or is it that facing Fedorov with a firing rate of 660, Is a 25 round magazine enough for you to kill a team of 9 people?I think you’re the one who’s crazy.

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like i said numerous times, ROF of fg42 is not advantage. you are wasting more bullets than needed. i would take fedorov over fg42 any time cause:

  1. better recoil
  2. not wasting bullets
  3. bigger magazine
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It sounds like FG422 has high recoil but poor accuracy. :sweat_smile:

Alas, another post get derailed because some dude believes body armour is intergal to game balance, otherwise Soviet will be unplayable.
Curiously, they always remain silent on the effect of body armour on low br smg and start calling people “hypocrite” and noob left and right. Surely enlisted is a game about avt40 vs fg42.

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You ain’t killing more than a 4 people with highly inaccurate FG42 mate even FG42 II can barely kill 5- people as it’s still too wild, while Fedorov can kill 7 people easily but 9 people is too much for all 3 of those that’s why soviets are carrying RD-44 they can wipe out 3 squads in a single mag or alternatively AS-44 as a secondary gun.

I will take my squad of 7 any time a week over mediocre FG42/II rifleman squad

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They have never let me down and result in total domination of German teams, FG42 is never a concern of mine only bipoded MG42 100 are, but after a single death they are easy to take out as they are stationary.

Ha, I made the conditions very clear from the beginning. If the effectiveness of the bulletproof vest is removed, I will certainly refuse the suggestion to buff FNAB43. But without the bulletproof vest, why should the German main force continue to demand buffs?

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This is a great attempt to fit an owl onto a globe. Or to fit a round thing into a square hole, as you please…

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PPS-42/43 and Uragan + M1A1 are still better than any German smg as we still have vitality

MP40 with it’s 7.0 dmg can only 2hit kill at range up to 14m. Do you really think Germany doesn’t need a buff? They are pathetic just a joke of a country at BR2 and also BR5.

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Without vit i could agree they are really good and can kill in two hits up to 70m and would only need to receive very small buff to it’s visual recoil (as it’s 1.6 instead of 1.0 like 2a) but other than that they would be fine. Vitality and turtle armor destroyed gun balance.

That’s why FNAB-43 with real rof is crucial for Germany at BR2 if they want to compete vs Vitality terminator soldiers.

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Some boos want to keep their armour bonus…

Even if “supposedly” it has no influence on gameplay according to them (but muuuh don’t remove my bonuses uuuuh)

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Cosmetics are Cosmetics. Should be visual only.

If those boos want something “unique” that “add flair”… allow armour… AS AN ITEM FOR THE BACKPACK SLOT.

Reasoning: armour is heavy (duh) so you cannot bring anything else if you chose your 10% bonus.

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no. German weapons are excellent.

Is that bad? It should kill with one shot at 100 meters, otherwise the Germans won’t be able to win. The Axis is suffering.

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Ha, some guys have strengthened FG42 and FG422 under the pretext of bulletproof vests, and you choose to ignore it.
I made it very clear:

  1. Remove the bulletproof vest effect but allow AVS36 to have a firing rate of 800, and stop the FNAB-43 that requires a firing rate of 800 or place it in BR3
  2. Retain the effectiveness of bulletproof vests and achieve buff FNAB-43.

So Soviets can have fast firing smgs with good mag size and good sights at BR2 but Germany has to wait till BR3? What’s the point of it being at BR3 when they are in dire need of gun that could be as good as PPS-42/43? Soviet bias is strong with you. And what about M1A1? Don’t you see a problem with that gun at BR2? What about Uragan?

We remove armor buff and introduce fast firing FNAB-43 at BR2 , end of the story, we end the Soviet bias once and for all.

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Can you kill a Soviet with 2 shots and have a 40 round magazine and an 800 fire rate, but still not be able to confront PPSH?
Don’t forget that in BR2, you have already obtained a Beretta with a firing rate of 630, which only requires 2 shots to kill a Soviet.

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You can’t kill soviets in 2 hits with any of German 40 round smgs at over 12m mate. So stop lying. Dmg drop off for smgs is extremely harsh.

i dont see your point…

Another lie, only at up to ~12-14m (too lazy to calculate it) and only if they don’t use body armor if they do it’s always 3 hit kill even at 0m and be completely inferior to PPS-42/43/Uragan

Why should a faction stop receiving better weapons? I don’t see anyone demanding the end of new soviet toys.

Well, Germany certainly can use better br3 semi and better br5 cas, right? Every faction should get adjustments and new toys. So what’s the big deal? I am trying to figure out why fg42 triggered you so much.

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