Battle of Moscow should be Allied only not Germans

Battle of Moscow as of now sometime put the Germans as the Defender, this makse no sense considering Moscow should be the one always defending as the Germans are the Invaders according to History. Just like in Normandy where Germans are always defending except on the France map which makes sense

However on the Monastery map that was based on Moscow so the Russians should be the ones to always defend

We have Berlin where German defends almost all the time already, so Moscow should be centred towards that the Russians are the ones that are always Defending

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From the beginning of CBT play German only as the attacker, but after fixed due to balance reaons, you don’t know this fix since you never played in CBT

The fact that the Russians are attacking Moscow breaks the immersion very heavily

Germans never took Moscow, they failed to Capture it.

This game says itself is Historically accurate


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Berlin as of now all maps the Germans are always Defending. Same with Normandy except 1 Map where its Neutral that makes sense Historically

However On Moscow, Playing as Soviets, Russians bombing the city itself makes absolutely no sense history wise, and they should never be the attackers

Were there no counterattacks during the battle of moscow, where Soviet troops tried to retake points held by the Germans on the field?

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They were and that would make sense. However retaking Moscow in this game makes no sense at all, I mean the Russian City in general. Some Village maps where Germans are defending is okay, But retaking Moscow the City just doesn’t fit at all and makes no sense

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The battle of Moscow started the winter after Barbarosa, all winter the Red Army was on the attack, pushing the Germans back. Until Hitler gave the stand fast order, it was turning into a full scale retreat.

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Wikipedia said otherwise

Germans never took Russia Moscow as the City. Sure you can have Village maps where Soviets are attacking or random chance. But on the City of Moscow? No thats wrong

Monastery isn’t Moscow though, so I’m not sure what you mean. The battle of Moscow was the winter campaign that pushed the Germans back from the outskirts of Moscow. It’s called that because of Moscows proximity, and it was army group centers objective. The Germans never took the city proper.

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Yeah, seems that he thinks that “Monastery” is Moscow itself for some weird reason.

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Germany should always be attacking on this map is what im saying. It makes no sense for the Russians to bomb their own city and shelling it

Dude, wake up. This is not Kremlin or smth. Just a random monastery near some village. Why shouldn’t it be counter-attacked and taken back during Moscow counter-offensive?

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Soviets made plenty of attacks of their own.

Did a river cruise from Moscow to St Petersburg in 2018 - there’s a monastary at Kirillov, the boat stops at Goritzy - not quite the same floor plan, but the walls and towers are right out of the book …

Theres no proof Germans ever captured such settlement, its anti historical

If people want Germans Defending they can go Berlin, Moscow should be where Soviets are always Defending. Since on Berlin you are always on the Offence

Moscow - Should be 80% where Russians Defending, atm its 50/50 which makes no sense
Normandy 90% US Attacking, only 1 Map where its Random Chance of Defending
Berlin - Soviets Always Attacking, Germans Defending

So is having T-28 and T-50 at “Moscow” - sadly you’ll just have to get over it or get out.

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Joseph-Volokolamsk Monastery - Wikipedia
This is the place that ingame Monastery map is inspired by. And yes, there were Soviet troops stationing there that were pushed out of the Monastery by German attack. Its famous bell tower was even partially destroyed in the process.

So devs took interesting piece of landscape of the terrain where real fights happened and gave as good (one of the best imo) map. That is more than enough to be satisfied with that choice.

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Just look at this. The Campaign advertise itself as Battle of Moscow

Let me ask you. Which map looks closest to Moscow? its the Monastery map of course
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Right now it feels like basically on D-Day. Except the Americans are the ones Defending with MG42 to me