Battle of königsberg campaign

I know you and @RaFaTuS are having a debate, but it’s a rare one on the forums I really like reading, as I learn a lot about history from that region :smile:

Join the debate because my eng skill are not sufficient here :rofl:

I cannot: I do not know enough about historical facts of the region to comment on it. I can only learn

prussians didnt define them selfs. Kingdom of Poland did. Had flag, culture and unification actions. Why prussia isnt core land then for you?

not colonisation. there was poland already. it was invitation. migrant dont define country. Then teutonic order did they scam. This is only reason why anybody could say prussia is german. Poles were settling those lands earier. So it doesnt mean shit.

well, so come and try to take it from us mate;]

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Because germany,poland,lithuania ffs even russia can claim the land for themselves ,Wo have rigth? All of them can say we have our people here and

  • is part of our history
  • we conquered it
  • renamed it
  • give a flag

is not only polish land there are to many factor to take in account is not that simple, because if it was
we dont have stupid WAR in the 2023 because of a stupid piece of land

rather small amount of information there.

we have bigger part

we did too and and we have it even right now

did also

our flag was there earlier and its still here

ITS JUST MORE POLISH THAN ANYBODY ELSE

Russia and germany and a bit lithuania did the same is not more poland than is german or russian or lithuanian, is not a exclusivity poland claim the history say it

What is the problem in admit it?

No need to add as a different campaign

that it has to be someone

You slavs came after. Before great migration, germanic tribes were there.

so you should give back west germany to celts. they were there first

Thaths the neat part with multy claimed piece of land are of all claimant and the one wo get more land is the lucky one

If you think europe is neat, then you should search for middles east
You guys are way milder than us at least :sob:

Is easy
Selucide empire is the answer
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we dont have much more land to spare. We were forced to give up claims on east. Prussia will stay polish as it is will of people current living there. Free city is dump idea. It didnt work onece. Wont work this time also. And how would you feel if sb just carved out some cities from northen Italy? Iam sure that Franch, Austrians and Chorwats would like to say they have claim as big as Italians have

NO WAY !
Seljuks is the answer
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I have something simillar in mind xd
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(its insane forged map dont worry, not having such a big claims)

In italy we have special region are region wo are almost semi-indipedent

Like

  • south tirol
  • sardinia
  • sicily

France already have nizza and corsica
Austria can take the south tyrol if want buy it is full of separatist movement
Chorwats i think is croatia so already have zara

And my point was prussia have a lot of nation claim the land for themselves and poland is one of them not the only one, free to write your history book if you dont like it