If we want talk about border, because both danzing and konisberg has changed more flag than france changed republic, both need be free city like luxembourg
Its f Gdańsk and its polish since f VII century. Stole things dont lose their rightfull owner no matter how many times they were stole;]
Idk how about Królewiec where are living currently mostly russians settled by their government so they might dont care, but Iam sure that no one in Gdańsk or in whole Pomorze (Pomerania) where I live would agree for that. We are 100% citizens of Poland. No any signs daubts or separatism here.
Indeed Give prussia back to germany, the red ruthenia to ukraine
Prussia is polish. Teutonic order sole it using papal influance. Never was german. Indigenous population never was german. Never even consider it self as a german. They were just brutally forced to submission. Idk why there is myth about German orgins anwyhere placed east from Odra.
Sadly we actualy did. Also we have never sole it. Ukraine Nation didnt even existed yet. As a matter of fact not many things existed there then. From chronicles we know that Grody Czerwieńskie were mostly polish at least since 10 century. I have in mind polish tribes of course. Unification isnt the same as conquest. So east borders are for debate even today. Its rather complicated but nothing is so f blindly obwious like f russian exclave made only bc they wanted baltic port that dont frezees in winter.
Prussia was of old prussian, prussian was balten colture a mix between baltic and german, only because all prussian after ww1 and ww2 emigrate in Germany this dont mean them for generation dont lived here, even before the teutons
So nope, prussia is polish like konisberg is russian
Is how religion work, maya have a lot to complain about this
You can play teutonic order in eu4 and the best random event is tell to the population “i cant hear you” or “i hear you but i dont give a fuck”
Kievian rus can be considereted old ukraine
Yes and no. Prussians were baltic tribe (not in any way german if you think that this land had anything to do with them) but between them were also slavs tribes. But yes, I would like to see there state of Jaćwings much more than Russia or Germany. Problem is that there dont exist as individuall ethnic group know. All mixed with lithuanian and polish.
no any germans there before teutons. With time many migrants for sure. In very polish land there was large nuber of german settlers. They were even officially invited by some kings.
I live in region. I dont take knowlage of this land by playing games xd. I would like you to read about how big scam teutonic knight did makeing those lands ,theirs" and how even got here (useing this logic Hungary would be german bc teutonic knights did there f same, but Hungarians saw what is comming and got order off their lands for time). And its only way that you can consider something east from river Odra ,German". SCAM.
Or old Russia thats the problem too. But it has nothing to do with Grody Czerwieńskie. Przemśl is closer to Cracow than to Kiev. And as I said form polish chronicles as well as from russian ones we hnow that this region was inhabited by Lachs, in other words polish tribes.
And? Forget what you posted
What i answered
Were i say im taking my notion by a game 
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well, it mean than probably I know somethig more about region. And thats rather true. Dont know maybe you live it here too? Then this fact wouldnt matter. Now it does. Also I think tha Iam someway more entitled to speaking about my land than you.
and?
so why you even bring game to it? And you sound like it.
Because is satarized how old cristianity work
Each nation tell his own version of history so it can be biased and altered you need read the history from multilple source for have the correct one, and mature your own thougth about it
And trust me no nation tell the rigth history is always altered for hidden/press on something
In this case
No prussia is not polish core land the people wo lived here was a mix of slavs, baltic and germans whatever happened next the land changed flags,ruler and population density a lot of time
Now is ruled by poland tomorrow by the earth federation and in some century by some bug alien invader
old cristanity dont make new fair borders. At least shouldnt. No point of speaking about it.
As I said, its time for you to read how teotonic order was obtaining their land. You can even use Hungarian perpective. Will be same.
still idk where you got those germans before teutonic order xd
still dont know why we should do it. My arguments in this discusion are much stronger I think. Those were never stolen. Not even consider it as conquest. But prussia was litterally stole by forging documents by teutonic order. So it had been stolen as f*uck for me.
So lets say that prussia was happily rererererereconqured by Poland and now its time for kaliningrad oblast. From historical and millitary reasons.
I see, i was thinking the patriotic russian on this forum was crazy, but in poland is no different
As an west Germany isnt core land of Germany? Bc I can say the same thing. Did you ever heard aboud polabian slavs?
If you dont agree it will be little bit of hypocrisy you know?;]
I dint speak slavic so i cant read the map
its german map
Ok i cant read celtic,norse and german
its line between slavian and german tribes.
From german perspective. Their map. Nothing is so core after all xd
Still i cant read a line between something i cant read
On the right side, those yellow are slavians. On the left side, those green are germans. It would mean that many west german lands arent their core lands. Using that logic of course. If prussia isnt core land of Poland, nothing in Europe is core land of anything xd
Then where are you from? Iam just intereted right now
Using logic of tribe but we are using the logic of the first nation 1400 and after wen the modern europe border start define themselves and colture unify themselves under one flag
So in in this period the majority of western slavs wo was present in Germany and europe was in the kingdom of bohemia and poland, Prussia was already start be colonized by german settler wo moved near konisberg and danzing wo was prussia region main city and his old population start be germanized as well
After a lot of thing happened and as i said 30th now the prussian region changed to much time population and flag that cant be considereted core state of no nation now is a land with a lot of claim on it
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