Balance the full-auto full-power rifles in each faction

Not so different than use two assaulter squad and a medic squad

I’d be very cautious with that. I wouldn’t want to make bolt action rifles obsolete.
But buffing accuracy and range is perfectly fine.

Only on the weapon level (and still not fully), not on utility level.
Imo it would be a must have squad. Especially for F2P players that need to take the most universal squads because of limited slots.

Yeah I was only talking about specifically BR 4 and 5. When Boltaction rifles arent really a thing anymore (beyond choice)

the choice at that BR 4-5 is Semi auto or Selectfire (Select fire just straight up better)

The choice at low BR 1-3 is Bolt Action or Semi Auto (there is an upside for both)

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Fair point, but I would remember you that skill in using a gun is the most important factor, outside try harder most people who run full auto are not an issue because they play ā€œchillā€

Bolt action already don’t fight semi auto most of time, I think is fine buff their damage now

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Except if we balance gear, we must assume equal level of skill. Otherwise we can give a knife to one dude and a minigun to another and say it’s balanced because of their skill.

Personally I’d like semis and bolts to be somewhat comparable. I run BR3 with mix of both and imo it’s fine as it is.
Assuming BR±1 will come one day, we have to take such situations into account.

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IMO after BR 3, Semi Autos become the new ā€œBolt Actionsā€

Hitting harder could be a reason to use them over select fires . Follow the BR 1-3 Bolt Action VS semi auto formula

  • Semi Auto requires 1 hit (certain range), 10 rounds
  • Select Fire, higher Capacity, Full Auto, Requires 2 hits

Or we could change select fire to be intermediate cartridge like I suggested.

  • bolt action rifles - slow rof, big damage
  • semi auto rifles - medium rof, medium damage
  • intermediate rifles - high rof (auto), low damage

Imo such split gives every gun an unique role, even at high BR.

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Balanced gear isn’t = skill level, the gear should be balanced (indipendent you go full auto or not) the other should counter you, but if you are skilled you should win every time if you want

Semi are booties evolution and is becomed ever more nitid now with the BR wall splitting them, also some semi already have back their 14 original damage so I don’t see why even other can’t (obliviously the one who can in base of their ammunition)

I just don’t like the idea of making weapon type completely obsolete.
I’m ok if one semi rifle makes the other semi rifle obsolete. But the whole category of guns? Imo that’s too much.
I don’t like this powercreep mentality both devs and a lot of community has. Sidegrades are more interesting than upgrades.

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We are talking about 6 gun in total who should be buffed

Svt 38
Svt 40
ZK 29
Gewer 41
Gewer 43
Garand

All other semi-auto or are carabine, use low damage cartridge like armaguerra and hei, or are full auto/drum and shouldn’t be changed

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Then ppl will ask why you buffed those rifles based on cartridge but not full auto ones.
Of course I know why but you see the issue.

You answered yourself full auto one have already higher DPS than any other gun outside mg

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Semis also already have higher dps than bolt action rifles. And yet you buff them.
You see that balance of SA vs SF is an issue and your solution is to push it down to BA vs SA. I don’t like this.
(Remember I’m planing for BR±1.)

Boltie don’t fight in full auto envorinment and haven’t semi dispersions penalties

honestly imo Is not going happen and I’m talking about current game

So it’s not an issue of semis being too weak, but everything else being too strong.
That’s why I suggest intermediate rifles. So they aren’t a straight upgrade from semis but are still on pair with everything else (except for MGs).

fair

They should ve guaranteed 1 hit. They’re logical upgrade to BAs.

People shouldn’t have dilemma what to pick, semis should be always better.
Thus BAs without GLs should be placed at BR 1-2 and Semis at BR 3-4.

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So SF rifles also should be ohk.

It wouldn’t make much difference, so I really don’t care.

I think hand held .50cal (though with limited ammo) may actually make a difference.