Balance the full-auto full-power rifles in each faction

So when silver T20 get added sometime in future I think its time we get fg42 and fg422 back to better form like less spread and default full-auto. Also reduces the recoil of avt40 and give 5 more rounds in its mag

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If the AVT40 gets any more recoil reduction, it will start shooting downwards.

Did it have 20 rds mags irl? Otherwise, nope.

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Unpopular opinion but rifleman shouldn’t have full auto weapons. Assaulter and gunner classes exist for this purpose.
But if you really want them, at least use weapons with intermediate cartridge. To prevent potential balance issues (making semi autos obsolete).

Of course nothing like this will happen. (But I can still write it and act like a smartass.)

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Yes, the 20 round drum the gold order SVT has was originally designed for the AVT, a prototype 25 round magazine was also made, but these would be different weapons

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Nah I feel if auto rifles need to be limited, then at least limit them to the special rifle classes like radiomen and engineers. But rn I feel auto rifles are ok where they’re currently at. If anything I feel the assault engineers from the event engineer squad should be able to equip smg’s instead of just assault rifles. It’d make more sense to equip them with smg’s

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I mean, I don’t know about unpopular … I think it would be a good idea too.

But at the same time, we have premiums and events that have full autos on engineers as well. So the ability to have them sort of balances it for that aspect.

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Popular with me. Riflemen should probably stop at Garands, G-43s and SVT-40s IMO

All that other Stuff Should be Specialists. Machine Gunners, Paras and Assaulters only.

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actually yes, the bubnov drum from the svt-40 gold order was meant for the avt-40

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IN ww2 us army. all guner have M1 Garland/carbine
but in gr/ussr army auto rifle is for veterans only
if most guner can’t use auto rifle the allies will have a huge imbalanced advantage

is something right
avt have 20 round magazine i lost the photo maybe can found

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Not talking about historical, Just game class identity. Apply to

Riflemen: Semi Autos (No Automatic options - could potentially buff Semi Auto Hit power)
Assaulters: Automatic Rifles, Select Fire
Machine Gunners: MGs and Select Fires

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I like this, Idea … but I would make MGunners have full power Select Fires only (Not things like M2 Carbines, but things like FG42 and Type Hei).

As for riflemen … it may be interesting to balance this change by giving them a buff to semi autos as a class. Think if Riflemen had reduced dispersion when using semi autos .

Semi Autos I also think need a slight damage drop off change … I think they really just drop off too fast. I’d rather do that then a buff to damage outright as you don’t want them fully taking over the bolt action for damage efficiency as bolts are currently in a really good spot imo.

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Just throwing it out there,

But what if the BR IV/V Semi Autos go up to higher damage (1 shot)

It would be safe to say everyone would have swapped to semi autos at this point. (Other than those that use things just “because”( i still use enfields at br 5 lol)

That way bolt actions keep the balance with low BR semi autos, up to and including BR III, and high BR semi autos gain some relevance over select fire at high BR. (When its highly unlikely anyone would be running bolt actions except for by choice)

The way i see it semi autos needed to be balanced for bolt action rifles in campaigns, but now thats gone and we have BRs it doesnt matter so much “after” BR III


To recap, currently

Br 1-3 is balance between bolt actions and semi autos, bolts action upside is guaranteed 1 shot, semi auto can get more volume off.

Br 4-5 the balance shifts to bewteen semi-autos and select’fires…except select fires are better at everything (so what if semi auto became the guaranteed 1 shot at this BR)

Just something to think about

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This could work to separate the lower powered semi autos that are in low br (such as the M1 Carbine, and Mod 39) and the full power.

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I really don’t want to have to go back to semis
everyone will just run assaulters
these new event engineers, are breath of fresh air for me, after 3 y of using just semi, because i main engineers
run around with semis while all are auto, is not fun

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Thats a fair point. But what if semi autos were guaranteed 1 hit? (i mean they are full powered rifle rounds)

Or do you think that wouldnt change anything

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At BR 5 with all using autos, no i don’t think it would help much, as the rate there firing, compared to what i can pump out/spam, before i take hit and loose accuracy.

Can you leave BR 5 alone, and just make all other BR use semis :stuck_out_tongue:

as i mention 3y just playing semis, finally after getting all the way to BR 5, i got to use a M2 on a Engineer, changed my life.
Now with event engineers with auto is so sweet, i just cant see myself going backwards from using auto back to semi, is like you handicapping me for playing engineer.

I used semi so long, i still forget i am holding a auto, and still double tap, thinking it semi :rofl:
I double tap on a auto, and half clips gone. lol

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haha sorry mate. its just idle talk. nothing will come of it Im sure

when BR 5 gets locked out from the rest, this becomes moot and all are happy

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This would allow them to play low BR. Imo it’s too big o a power spike when compared to the rest of the gear.

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