So i have been testing the PzB38 against BA-11s and BT-7s and I can say that there is definitely something wrong with the BA-11’s damage model. Its crew can often take up to 4 direct hits from the PzB38 per crew member. With its reload time of 1 shot every 3.5 seconds, this might lead up to a full minute to kill 1 BA-11, while a well timed TNT pack can take them out instantly. All the while, the BT-7 crewmembers consistently die when hit once or maybe twice on bad hits. Even then, it takes at least 10.5 seconds to take out a BT-7.
In comparison, we got the PTRS. a 5-round semi automatic with a firerate of about 1 round every 1.5 seconds, that can deal similar damage against Pz2s and Pz3s as the PzB38 can against BT-7s. It can take out any tank within 8 seconds if aimed properly with no reload.
please consider changing the damage model of the BA-11 and/or replacing it with the T-26, as well as replacing the PTRS with the PTRD, as right now the “upgrade” unlock, the PTRD, actually downgrades your gun as you go from a semi-automatic to a single shot weapon.
Nope, everytime my tank crew member get kill from pzb38, it mostly takes only 1 hit, before I can even react, all member die without I have time to control them.
BA-11 is definitely OP and can hardly be killed (very sloped armor, narrow front profile, and sturdy turret). Usually I just kamikaze a troop with AT bomb because it’s a lot efficient than going against it as a Pz3B.
Are you using BA-11 or BT-7? Had the opportunity to queue-sync with a Russian player and I can confirm the BT-7 does not have extremely survivable crew and can actually be killed by hitting it twice in the driver port plate if the turret faces forwards
It needs no new shells as the shells all 3 tanks have are very powerfull and outperform the shells from the german tanks. The BA-11 is artificially survivable, with the BT-7 you experience the survivability all german tankers have experienced throughout the test. It is pretty fast, about as fast as the pz2. It also has an actually usable HE shell that kills enemies when shot at the feet, while the 20mm only has API-T which basically function as a 10 round MG against infantry. No tank has armor or survivability other than the BA-11.
Pz2 is slightly better against tanks
BT-7 is slightly better against infantry
The BT-7 is honestly balanced and this is a case of “get gud”.
No, if you tried BT-7, then you will find the marker is all red (can’t pen) when facing PzIIC, and PzIIc could use its 20mm shell to one magazine kill BT-7.
Also, there is a question, does PzIIc have low speed stabilizer? cause in Warthunder it has.
The BA-11 has proven to be more difficult to kill than any other vehicle in the game, using any weapon capable of destroying tanks:
Bombs (often only taking out half of the crew due to spacing)
Anti-tank rifles (generally multiple shots per crewmate with a 3.5 second reload while the russians get a “as fast as you can click” 5-round semi-automatic)
37mm cannon (while the 45mm outperforms it in every way, including reload, the 37 is actually somewhat usable against BT-7s, but not against BA-11s, as it seems about as effective as the anti-tank rifle)
20mm cannon (probably the most effective weapon, even though it does not fragment and basically acts like the anti-tank rifle as well, it has the highest rate of fire among them, using it like a semi-automatic allows you to kill BA-11s in one magazine about 50% of the time)
if you die in one hit, that would be because of explosive packs. Those are the only things powerfull and accurate enough to one-hit any stationary tanks. Fast movers are pretty much impossible for them to hit. Those can be carried by any soldier though, so it’s kinda sad that they are the most effective at taking out other tanks
And when you research panzer-2, you will dominate. That thing has a 20mm that can shred my ba-11 and brokenly overpowered armor. It has better survivability than king tiger from battle of berlin playtest lol
I think you have never played the Pz2 then. It has some weird angles that can lead to bounces, sure, but if you hit the flat armor parts it can actually die in 2 hits and you can reload faster than a pz2 user can respawn if you shoot the gunner first.
The 20mm does not consistently kill BA-11s in one clip, you actually have to single tap the autocannon so it becomes a semi-automatic to properly wack-a-mole the BA-11 crew.
But I still find it better than the panzer-3b. Also I forgot to write that the reason why ba-11 is hard to kill might be because tanks use the same damage models as in warthunder. That means we have so called “overpenetrating shells”. That system works when a certain vehicle has so weak armor that AT shells might just go through the vehicle without exploding. Armored cars like Ba-11 suffer against large caliber HE shells (75mm+). I think when they add panzer-4, it will be a good ba-11 killer and panzer-3L would be a good match for t-34’s that will be introduced later on
but then the Pz3B and E suffer with their 37mm guns. The fact that the BA-11 needs a later generation tank (mind you, the panzer 4 would only have it’s A, maaaybe B or C variant at the time of the Pz4E) to be balanced should be enough to tell you it isnt balanced in the current meta.
Sure, the pz2 is better against, tanks, but when given a proper HE shell, the pz3 should be better against infantry and should be slightly more survivable with the 2 extra crew
I don’t see how the pz3 will ever be better against infantry. The 37mm guns were never really used with HE capability in mind (i cant even find info about the German 37mm HE round and i wouldn’t be surprised if a lot weren’t even issued an HE round). Unless the devs give the 37 mm an HE round on par with a 75mm gun i dont see how it could be more effective than an autocannon