AVT-40 ,Fedorov and KV-1 in Moscow when?

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cannot wait to see these three things in Moscow

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KV-1 is gonna have old geezer speed so dynamite will love to see a KV-1

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Federov? That’d be cool. AVT-40? Unnecessary. KV-1? Do we really need more heavy tanks in an infantry game? Wasn’t there a lot of pushback against the T50 not that long ago?

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I want buildable Flak 88s in all ETO campaigns

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I mean, if they do that then have fun playing against bots, cause noone will play the germans. The russians are already nuts, they don’t need more op crap.
The only thing that’s in any way balancable here is the fedorov. It could be added as next mg gunner, while the germans get mg34 drum.

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It would truly be a shame if it greyzone camped.

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The federov is actually an automatic/battle rifle though, it should go to the infantry, where it wouldn’t see much play because PPSh spam.

That said, it would be interesting to see, cuz it’s a neat gun, and I’d be okay with it being limited to MG gunners the minute the FG42 gets the same treatment.

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Hopefully the federov will only be a gold order. I would rather it not be able to be given to any soldier, at most a assaulter weapon. I would like to see the Suomi, maybe as a counter to the fedorov. I think the Avt 40 is already in a premium squad in Moscow. I don’t really want a kv in Moscow, but if they do the Germans should get a Marder with a 75mm gun.

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it was, but it wouldn’t be balanced as one.

No, no and no. AVS is already op af compared to what the axis get, this is just too much.

it would. It’d likely be as powerful as the STG44, with 600rpm and around 9-10 base hitpower. And giving it to infantry would simply mean that the entire squad, not just assaulters can have that.

That it would.

Why does the FG42 matter? The fedorov and fg should never see each other in the same campaign. The fedorov was already being pulled out of service in 1941, while the FG42 didn’t see service till 1943.

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Don’t care for avt and Fedorov, but I do want KV. AND T34.

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Can’t argue that

I also agree here. I struggle to see the AVS as OP, but since Germany doesn’t get a good autorifle in Moscow, it’s a solid point.

Eh, limited by 25 round mag capacity and recoil. 6.5mm Arisaka isn’t exactly an intermediate cartridge at all.

The FG42 doesn’t matter, in the context of the Moscow campaign, because it’s not present. It matters in the larger scheme because it’s an autorifle, specifically designed to also to LMG work, and only ever issued to machine gunners in paratrooper sections, one FG42 per section. It may have been intended for wider use, if only with the paratroopers, but none of that justifies its availability to all german infantry in two campaigns. As long as DF is treating autorifles as infantry weapons, all autorifles should be infantry weapons. If they start restricting them to the units that had them, either by adding specialist paratrooper/stormtrooper squads, or just those classes as specialist slots in other squads. Would giving the federov to all soviet infantry be balanced? Hell no. Would it be consistent with autorifle availability in the other campaigns? Yup.

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Then it will say hi to stuka

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It is since the semi nerf. The fast rof while on semi makes it incredibly strong compared to the axis semis. And what helps it is that it’s usable by riflemen, which buffs soviet assault squads even more.

That depends on how they model it. But 6.5 arisaka isn’t too large either, and the fedorov weighed 5kgs, which eats a lot of that recoil. It was also praised for it’s controllabillity as far as I know. And 25r mag isn’t that bad either. The FG42 has 20r mags, and it still doesn’t break it.

I mostly play moscow so a lot of this is beond me, but: I do agree that auto rifles shouldn’t be as widely availible as they are now. Fedorov would make sense as LMG in moscow to me, as it was more of a specialist weapon rather than something like the AVS, which was meant to be a regular rifle. And I’m not sure the germans could have an auto rifle as a possible counter in moscow, so LMG just makes sense. But in the other campaigns, the only way to logically do this would be to restrict numbers of them per squad, rather than locking it to a class. That’s because all the nations auto rifles are different. With FG42 leaning more toward mg gunners, M2 carbine to assaulters and AVS/AVT to regular riflemen.

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Which will drain points from the attackers. And this way you’d simply incourage suicide bombing, which is not ok. You’d also make german tanks completely useless.
T50 is op enough, we don’t need a kv to completely powercreep moscow.

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Combined arms game, and the answer is yes then.

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The answer is: How useless are we gonna make early axis tanks?

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I’d say restricting autorifles to assaulters or gunners depending on the rifle in question is a good solution.

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I say let dev work and give use mechanized-infantry and paratroopers for restrict them :wink:

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Then what about the AVS/AVT? It was used like a regular semi auto infantry rifle. The only restriction which would make sense would be riflemen.