I agree, but the improvements I suggested would make the MP43 a true assault rifle, not an SMG with slightly increased damage and low rate of fire.
I think that would have solved everything. In any case, the USSR decides between PPSh and Fedorov
Yes, and I have no issue with those, I think they’re quite nice.
I have an issue with the fedorov being in Berlin. Or even in the game. If it was to be added, it should’ve been saved for a winter war campaign.
Now it’s just killed Berlin for good for no reason.
Okay, you can make a thread about that, but here I’d like to focus on the game numbers, which I carefully described in the post. Feel free to give it a “like” if you agree.)
I know, I just saw your comparison with the fedorov and put forward a suggestion on how to make that more realistic and this damage conundrum a lot simpler.
You didn’t have to reply back. But you did, so I explained my reasoning.
The Russians are using Madsens in game left in the stockpile from when the Russian Empire bought them. There’s no reason to remove content just because it’s outdated, I have a bigger issue with Captured weapons being more common than service use/purchased/lend lease weapons like with the Soviets in Stalingrad with the Breda. Or the fact that some weapons are in campaigns earlier than they existed, like with the MKb 42 in Moscow when it wasn’t used on the field until three months after the Battle for Moscow ended.
Thing is - The madsen is:
1)In Moscow. That’s early barbarrossa, so those guns make sense there, seeing as the USSR was short on machine guns.
2) A gun chambered in 7.62x54R. The most common russian cartridge used by basically all soviet Mgs and rifles in ww2. Therefore a madsen could easily be supplied with ammo.
The Fedorov uses 6.5 arisaka. That cartridge basically dissapeared from Europe during early barbarrossa. Therefore Fedorovs were pulled out of service, as there was literally no way to ressuply them with ammo. So I don’t see how any could still be in use past 42, nevermind 45.
And Mkbs were actually in use during the time the Battle of Moscow was taking place. Not sure if in Moscow, but 35 prototypes arrived at the frontlines April 1942.
And Mkbs are necessary for balance, as the soviet faction currently severly overpowers the germans in both Moscow and Berlin. So there is no need for basically fantasy guns to be given to the soviets.
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moscow is stated to have ended in January of 42 while 50 MKBs arrived at leningrad in april
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But Who cares? As long as It Is blanaced more content Is Always appreciated.
Imo if the weapon existed It can be implemented
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And it isn’t balanced.
It’s a strong weapon for an insanely strong faction.
AS44 when?
Might as well add in the IS-3, SKS 45, RPD, Maus…
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i dont see a problem with them, as long as they are balanced
good so nerf it? idk i didnt really play it or played against it so i cant say.
Well, I do.
I’d say this game needs a decent amount of historical accuracy, which it is losing. Otherwise we’ll end up with COD Vanguard: gaijin edition.
Nah, just find an actual soviet smg to put in instead. Fact is, axis berlin needs a buff and allies berlin doesn’t need more op toys. And nerfing everythning is not the right answer.
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if the dont implement cursed shit and just restrain on prototype/“old” weapons i dont see where is the problem
The problem is that it just doesn’t feel right.
Some prototypes and stuff I understand if they’re added to balance things out, but the fedorov in berlin is just too much.
Also, it basically kills the idea for a winter war campaign.
And then there’s the issue of the fedorov being unlocked at the same level as the STG44. A gun which had over half a million created by 1945.
Oh and also, we already have a place for these guns in the game. it¨s called gold orders and premium squads.
Oh and to add to this: Furry pfp detected, opinion discredited.
People who come to play WW2 games for WW2 content. Not fantasy Halo-Wolfenstein-Fortnite land.
Enlisted.net: The weaponry, soldier’s uniform, appearance and capabilities of the vehicles in the game are in line with historical facts.
Neither MKb in Moscow/Stalingrad, nor PPK or Fedorov in Berlin, nor many of gold order/premium weapons are supported by any facts.
At least I’d understand 1 per player gold order MKb for “kewl” prototype/testing vibe.
But Stalingrad meta right now is 3 MKb squads on infitine rotation.
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this is an arcade run n gun shut the brain and shoot type of shooter, tf are you saying?
doesnt matter the number created is honestly wothless data, this game doesnt follow this type of rules anymore, the original concept was a failure and the game has changed direction.
even if you dont like it enlisted will become gradually more and more arcade bc this is what you need to make money, and an old gun that was dissmissed couple years prior will be the least of the problem.
honestly historical authenticity and realism is already gone and they will not return.
its not still a problem? it doesnt ruin the feeling of authenticity of the game?
yeah we are not 12 years old are we?
just saying that this is a lost battle, the type of game you want its not profitable and can be sustained
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old promises, they didnt maintain them.
and really that is false advertisement at this point
wow guys, I’m glad for the discussion, but I’d really like to see a conversation on the topic. I really want the suggestion to be considered, because a weapon that gets 10% damage needs 20, and the mp43 needs better accuracy and damage.
Historical conversations can be had, but probably in a separate thread
That doesn’t mean we have to give everyone fantasy land assault rifles.
Seems like it’s time ofr me to do the same.
Honestly, between the server issues, imabalance, crappy repeating gamplay and destruction of realism , I can now say with confidence that this game has become way worse than warthunder.
No, cause they’re rare and their usage is limited. It also earns the devs money when cool guns are locked behind a paywall.
Exactly, so stop with this furry crap.
bye?
just make the mp43 have 9.8 damage when upgraded and reduce the spread to 0.3 still balanced.
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