Assault rifles and MP43 bonuses

[Winter_Storm]

@JoJoMaster420

And Mkbs were actually in use during the time the Battle of Moscow was taking place. Not sure if in Moscow, but 35 prototypes arrived at the frontlines April 1942.

moscow is stated to have ended in January of 42 while 50 MKBs arrived at leningrad in april

[_mortebianca]

@JoJoMaster420

The Fedorov uses 6.5 arisaka. That cartridge basically dissapeared from Europe during early barbarrossa. Therefore Fedorovs were pulled out of service, as there was literally no way to ressuply them with ammo. So I don’t see how any could still be in use past 42, nevermind 45.
And Mkbs were actually in use during the time the Battle of Moscow was taking place. Not sure if in Moscow, but 35 prototypes arrived at the frontlines April 1942.

But Who cares? As long as It Is blanaced more content Is Always appreciated.

Imo if the weapon existed It can be implemented

[JoJoMaster420]

And it isn’t balanced.
It’s a strong weapon for an insanely strong faction.

@_mortebianca

Imo if the weapon existed It can be implemented

AS44 when?
Might as well add in the IS-3, SKS 45, RPD, Maus…

[_mortebianca]

@JoJoMaster420

AS44 when?
Might as well add in the IS-3, SKS 45, RPD, Maus…

i dont see a problem with them, as long as they are balanced

@JoJoMaster420

And it isn’t balanced.
It’s a strong weapon for an insanely strong faction.

good so nerf it? idk i didnt really play it or played against it so i cant say.

[JoJoMaster420]

@_mortebianca

i dont see a problem with them, as long as they are balanced

Well, I do.
I’d say this game needs a decent amount of historical accuracy, which it is losing. Otherwise we’ll end up with COD Vanguard: gaijin edition.

@_mortebianca

good so nerf it? idk i didnt really play it or played against it so i cant say.

Nah, just find an actual soviet smg to put in instead. Fact is, axis berlin needs a buff and allies berlin doesn’t need more op toys. And nerfing everythning is not the right answer.

[_mortebianca]

@JoJoMaster420

I’d say this game needs a decent amount of historical accuracy, which it is losing. Otherwise we’ll end up with COD Vanguard

if the dont implement cursed shit and just restrain on prototype/“old” weapons i dont see where is the problem

[JoJoMaster420]

The problem is that it just doesn’t feel right.
Some prototypes and stuff I understand if they’re added to balance things out, but the fedorov in berlin is just too much.
Also, it basically kills the idea for a winter war campaign.
And then there’s the issue of the fedorov being unlocked at the same level as the STG44. A gun which had over half a million created by 1945.
Oh and also, we already have a place for these guns in the game. it¨s called gold orders and premium squads.

Oh and to add to this: Furry pfp detected, opinion discredited.

[Veekay45]

@_mortebianca

But Who cares? As long as It Is blanaced more content Is Always appreciated.

People who come to play WW2 games for WW2 content. Not fantasy Halo-Wolfenstein-Fortnite land.

Enlisted.net: The weaponry, soldier’s uniform, appearance and capabilities of the vehicles in the game are in line with historical facts.

Neither MKb in Moscow/Stalingrad, nor PPK or Fedorov in Berlin, nor many of gold order/premium weapons are supported by any facts.

At least I’d understand 1 per player gold order MKb for “kewl” prototype/testing vibe.
But Stalingrad meta right now is 3 MKb squads on infitine rotation.

[_mortebianca]

@JoJoMaster420

The problem is that it just doesn’t feel right.
Some prototypes and stuff I understand if they’re added to balance things out, but the fedorov in berlin is just too much.
Also, it basically kills the idea for a winter war campaign.

this is an arcade run n gun shut the brain and shoot type of shooter, tf are you saying?

@JoJoMaster420

And then there’s the issue of the fedorov being unlocked at the same level as the STG44. A gun which had over half a million created by 1945

doesnt matter the number created is honestly wothless data, this game doesnt follow this type of rules anymore, the original concept was a failure and the game has changed direction.

even if you dont like it enlisted will become gradually more and more arcade bc this is what you need to make money, and an old gun that was dissmissed couple years prior will be the least of the problem.

honestly historical authenticity and realism is already gone and they will not return.

@JoJoMaster420

Oh and also, we already have a place for these guns in the game. it¨s called gold orders and premium squads.

its not still a problem? it doesnt ruin the feeling of authenticity of the game?

@JoJoMaster420

Oh and to add to this: Furry pfp detected, opinion discredited.

yeah we are not 12 years old are we?

just saying that this is a lost battle, the type of game you want its not profitable and can be sustained

[_mortebianca]

@Veekay45

The weaponry, soldier’s uniform, appearance and capabilities of the vehicles in the game are in line with historical facts.

old promises, they didnt maintain them.

and really that is false advertisement at this point

[Ralin]

wow guys, I’m glad for the discussion, but I’d really like to see a conversation on the topic. I really want the suggestion to be considered, because a weapon that gets 10% damage needs 20, and the mp43 needs better accuracy and damage.
Historical conversations can be had, but probably in a separate thread

[JoJoMaster420]

@_mortebianca

this is an arcade run n gun shut the brain and shoot type of shooter, tf are you saying?

That doesn’t mean we have to give everyone fantasy land assault rifles.

@_mortebianca

honestly historical authenticity and realism is already gone and they will not return.

Seems like it’s time ofr me to do the same.
Honestly, between the server issues, imabalance, crappy repeating gamplay and destruction of realism , I can now say with confidence that this game has become way worse than warthunder.

@_mortebianca

its not still a problem? it doesnt ruin the feeling of authenticity of the game?

No, cause they’re rare and their usage is limited. It also earns the devs money when cool guns are locked behind a paywall.

@_mortebianca

yeah we are not 12 years old are we?

Exactly, so stop with this furry crap.

[_mortebianca]

@JoJoMaster420

Seems like it’s time ofr me to do the same.

bye?

@JoJoMaster420

Exactly, so stop with this furry crap.

[_mortebianca]

just make the mp43 have 9.8 damage when upgraded and reduce the spread to 0.3 still balanced.

[Ralin]

The Mp43 lost 15% of its rate of fire. Maybe I went a little overboard with the damage additions, but I see the point in making the damage improvement 10.1-10.3
This is an important breakpoint that will make the assault rifle different from the SMG
And the scatter should be more Fedorov, after all, the 6.5mm round is faster and should be more accurate. A figure of 0.45 at 0.35 on the Fedorov would be enough

[TUSUPOLISI69]

@Rickyd123

moscow is stated to have ended in January of 42

depends on source, some claims it ended april.

[JoJoMaster420]

[ColdHeat]

@Rickyd123

moscow is stated to have ended in January of 42 while 50 MKBs arrived at leningrad in april

@TUSUPOLISI69

depends on source, some claims it ended april.

And lets not forget that Enlisted doesnt take it too seriously with historical dates when it comes to mere months. E.g. Jumbo in Normandy