This depicts perfectly how emotionally personal you took everything, and still take it.
I just pointed out that it is really frustrating for players to be forced to play Pz2s vs T34s in Moscow for example.
It is frustrating for them, since they can’t do anything against any tank in the game and they can do less against inf as well.
It’s frustrating for the team, cause someone is locking away the only 1 or 2 tankspots with stuff that has no use for it, and whether you like it or not, people will care.
This is why every tank game in existence has a Battlerating system, because people in general don’t like the feeling of being absolutely hammered on by cold war tanks in their ww1 noodle, despite of you saying that “people overall dont care cause it can be fun somehow”.
If people wouldn’t care about the game they play at all, they wouldn’t play it.
It is a frustrating experience.
That doesn’t mean that everyone is ultra competitive min/maxing perks and blaming people for every loadout decision, but denying that battlerating in a tankgame has use and people find it frustrating to not be able to do anything in their low tier vehicle compared to the latest one you can’t unlock, is quite frankly completely delusional.
And I hope you understand why drawing an analogy to guns in this game overall doesn’t work.
This is how it is and this is literally one of the big reasons they implement battlerating in the first place.
How you handle it is your thing.
Right now, since there is no BR, if you want to have impact on the game and not locked out of the tankrole by other Max Tier tanks, you are pretty much forced to play Max Tier tanks or get dunked on.
This has nothing to do with “META” but a base concept of playability.
You are pretty much forced to by the game itself, in the system we have right now, since otherwise “read opening lines above.”
People overall care about this type of stuff.
You don’t see people running around with knifes only cause it’s fun for them, or 9.0 BR in WarThunder with tons of 2.0 vehicles.
This just doesn’t happen.
Not cause “everyone plays meta”, but because it’s not playable and frustrating cause you force yourself into a situation of pure (or close to) unplayability.
It’s frustrating for you and frustrating to your team.
I really don’t know what is so increadibly hard to understand and controvercial about this.
having an hard time to keep track of what you type?
you seem to fail to realize one of the most important aspect of enlisted.
it gives you the ability to do ( almost ) all what you want.
for starter, to get this out of the way, it’s kinda the reason why the merge exist in the first place.
isn’t it?
dunno why you keep bringing that up as a " factual " when there are mixed reports from it even within this forum.
some people hate the merge because divide diversity and the ability to use m5s against tigers ( i’m not kidding .you can look that up )
and others praise it because it will ( in theory ) bring everything somewhat on a even plain field.
where most likely, no tigers against m5s.
but i never bringed that up.
you did.
perhaps you must confused me for someone else?.
or perhaps you’re trying to understand my position.
if it matters anything, i don’t have an opinion on it.
i’m mostly neutral.
but i think was necessary for better or worse.
yes, but actually no.
because the only reason why “our” discussion started, it’s because you don’t fully understand that people have preferences, and not everyone is a meta gloryhound.
which the game does not force you to equip your weapons fully with automatic.
the only one forcing things on their own equipment, is them selves.
i beg to differ.
people doesn’t give a shit about that.
because normal people, in a normal game… or rather, casual game ( as after all. enlisted is nothing but a casual game. your or mine inpact on a battle is pretty much irrelevant. you win some, you lose some. but in the end, always move on to the next match. and… sure, we have rankings on the profile. but those are meaningless too because everyone gets it as long they keep playing )
that’s what happens.
i don’t claim to be the majority, but i see everyday people that are fully end level and still plays with all sort of weapons from starter and mid tiers, despite being top tier.
because people are more interested in fun.
i’d argue the minority, is the ones who only wants to have fully optimal / flawless squads and what not.
which leads into a spiral of others joining because of the frustration caused by those individuals.
but the foundamental problem is not in the frustration ( al be it, part of it is )
but people like you who struggles to understand that not everyone is like you.
nor wants to play the way you do.
it’s that simple really.
p.s. i would like to remind you that meta will always play out the same way and make things boring.
even the morst hardcore player will get bored and move on to do the same thing onto another title.
if anything, meta stuff should be limited through how many you can use, and cooldowns before being able to reuse it.
enlisted should have been a more tactical / strategic game of where you should focus more on the use of your resrouches than just brainless rush with the most full meta as possible to fight over 1 meter of objective. but i digress.
im afraid thats not my personal experience in this, or any multiplayer game since the birth of the multiplayer games. there are always the outliers that max enhance low profile gear,but majority of people naturally trends towards improving the end game equipment, mostly based on efficiency of resources spent.
when the gear requires further expenditure of resources to get it to its best state, players naturally, and logically, tend to keep those resources to enhance the best and most expensive/hard to get gear available.
to put it in mmorpg terms, very high majority of players tend to not max enchant gear that is not BiS, if you understand my example. the max enchants, the most expensive upgrades, always goes and is saved for the best base equipment it can be spent on.
How is it trolling. I am helping the team one way or the other.
The Puma can still fight infantry. And given that vehicles are constantly getting destroyed chances are eventually lighter vehicles will spawn where you’ll be able to fight them. And even then the Puma can still take on various Allied vehicles. Not everything is about frontal pen xD lmao one shot
I know it goes without saying, but the vehicle system is balanced by the enemy’s job to destroy them. It’s like in Stalingrad I have matches where there’s an endless cycle of T-70s, KVs, and T-34s. Your team spawns this, enemy destroys it, your team spawns that, so on and so fourth
Now since we’re all debating vehicle performance and damage, let’s take a hypothetical look at halftracks
Half tracks for all intents and purposes are basically a light tank. No matter what armaments they have, flamethrower, mortar, assault guns, AT guns, AA guns, etc; they are all weakly armored. They can be taken out by pretty much anything
Now what does that mean, we wouldn’t be able to use half tracks in “late game” all because the enemy can easily destroy them. Then what’s the point of half tracks then
That’s why I say all this BR stuff is convoluted and leaning towards bad. I say play as whatever you want (as long as it’s not a time traveling King Tiger)
Agree, I very often still use a Panzer III in Normandy because its very great in infantry support and since there is no point in using Panzer IVs since both are equally bad against Jumbos.
Also fast driving Stuards with with their top mounted MGs are very potent - you just have to avoid the enemy tanks.
if it doesn’t nullify the progress, the customization, the skins, the upgrades, the perks and doesn’t overshadow other factions pros or cons I also personally think it will be an epic disaster for the game I think it was fine there’s this habit of modifying proven aspects that work well while you don’t fix other things that should be fixed but you tend to ruin the experience further
I know I am late but I’m proudly anti merge.
I think that the game was already in a good state before it, and that the merge did not fix any problems, and instead ruined everything.
Before you disagree, let me explain.
Maps
I have played every campaign before the merge and played since release, and I’d like to say that I disliked Normandy the most.
Most of the maps are terrible, and don’t get me started with the horrible Steel Mill maps.
Before then, it was better since you could choose the campaign you enjoy and play it without any problems.
But then now that the merge is here, I’m now forced to play campaigns and maps that I truly despise, which has caused me to desert, ranking me down, and I’m sure some of you have felt the same.
Tech Tree System
We can’t talk about how bad the merge was, without talking about the dreaded tech tree system. As some of you may know, I already play War Thunder and I’m sure most of you do, and are very familiar with the Tech Trees.
I really disliked the new Tech Tree system due to it’s research, regarding Italy.
This is mainly going to apply to the Germany tech tree but whatever.
As you may know, there are many weapons to unlock in these trees, progressing you further to unlock whatever comes next. The problem I have with that is the fact that I don’t want to research any Italian weapons, since they’re pretty much useless, and unreliable in my opinion. I don’t use any Italian squads often.
So they are just a waste of time and Silver to unlock them.
They can genuinely improve that by adding Italy as a sub tree within Germany to save more time and grind less.
Squads
Its pretty self explanatory and obvious that many legacy squads have been removed, including good ones. I’m mainly on about premiums here even though I never spent a single pound on this game.
Summary And Conclusion
I have many other reasons to make but I’m pretty sure you can make out other problems with it.
In summary, I have stated the main problems that has caused a turning point with the game, and severely impacted it.
In conclusion, this is mostly directed to all the pre merge players that feel the same.
And as always, the merge has completely messed up the game, and the sad thing is that it looks like it is here to unfortunately stay.
Post Script
I could’ve just made a post about this but it’s more of a response really.
