Apparently Germany still suffers - mega thread

[Kaeryl_269]

Yes I can but I am failing to see how this goes against my argument. Ffs I can kill it with a marder easely if I get the first shot.

[Jade_Stern]

Is its armor closer to M4 or Jumbo? You’d better take a closer look.

[Kaeryl_269]

Yeah if we ignore volumetric stuff and the amount of spots that the kv 1 has to bounce shots you can even argue that it is less armored than the M4 sherman, still it has a better cannon than the jumbo to make up for it doesn’t?

[Jade_Stern]

You’re completely wrong. The KV-1’s gun can only barely penetrate 80mm of armor, while the M4’s gun can easily achieve this.

[Veekay45]

@Jade Stern

Don’t forget that it did correspond to the P-47 in the past

And Winchester M1895 was unlocked on the same level as ZB26 – does that mean Winchester M1895 = balance = ZB26?

[Darenius1]

@_fi_nal

It’s not worthless, it’s worse.

G 41 is borderline worthless if enemy has body armor. If it was just the reload it would not be a such a problem but

[Darenius1]

@GeneralBrus

You know whats funny? I do somewhat agree with a few points that you have - but you are blatantly overdoing it with your bias, it makes me not want to give any input on my part. Its like for every good point you make you also make 10 suggestions that are completely out of this world. Germany has recieved many buffs recently and the total balance of the faction is better than it ever was.

You dont realise that you are destroying the credibility of all axis players with your constant complaining - which ultimately will cause the devs to listen to people who aren’t biased.

He really turned into zombie 2.0 but zombie learned to shut up for once and only ocasionally brings up his mg 42 anymore.

Sometimes I really wonder if Dregomz really thinks what he says or if he is just baiting.

[Darenius1]

@Jade Stern

Why has no one ever mentioned the Beretta M1918 with a firing rate of 1040

And still 200 rpm worse than PPT-27 in BR 1… So if ROF is everything then they still lose to the USSR.

[Dregomz]

@Darenius1

And still 200 rpm worse than PPT-27 in BR 1… So if ROF is everything then they still lose to the USSR.

When it comes to low-mid BR Germany is always playing with smgs of one BR lower in power than their opponents.

BR2 Germany = BR1 Soviets/USA
BR3 Germany = BR2 Soviets/USA
BR4 Germany = BR3 Soviets

[Jade_Stern]

G41 should have the same damage as G43, considering its loading speed, which is fair.

[Jade_Stern]

@Veekay45

And Winchester M1895 was unlocked on the same level as ZB26 – does that mean Winchester M1895 = balance = ZB26?

It’s meaningless to give such a bad example. JU188 can still kill infantry and tanks on a large scale, and it can indeed accomplish some of the work of P47.
It is appropriate to compare them together, as they are indeed the planes that cause the most damage to infantry among the two factions.

[Darenius1]

@Jade Stern

JU188 can still kill infantry and tanks on a large scale

It can only do that only if nobody is on an AA gun or in a plane ( last one does not happen agains the US) and still is worse than the TU 2 the soviets have.

[Veekay45]

@Jade Stern

it did correspond to the P-47 in the past.

@Jade Stern

It’s meaningless to give such a bad example

Exactly.

Campaign levels were not supposed to be 1:1.

[Dregomz]

@Jade Stern

JU188 can still kill infantry and tanks on a large scale

You are not killing anyone with sub 600km/h huge ass plane at BR5

[Cringemacht]

@sku111

A better proposition would be just to downtier the G43 and SVT 40.

Fully agree, however to balance this bolt action rifles need guaranteed one hit kill and faster cycling to make it competitive in uptiers even as main BR 3 rifles

[Dregomz]

Screw this shit i’m leaving, two guys in a single day running with turtle armor and completely disrupting the match and turning my G41 + VG1-5 into a nerf gun. Yes Germany is suffering. All i wanted is to level up few remaining squads.

[Dregomz]

@sku111

The other more important thing is that Germans need a serious SMG buff. The ZK-383 barely matches the PPS-43, which is a BR II gun, and the MP35 is worse than the M1A1 Thompson, which fires faster and deals more damage, also being a BR II gun. MP35 could do with 650rpm, as the MP35/I variant specifically (the one in game) did that in real life (the MP35 normal could only do 540rpm).

• FNAB-43 to receive it’s realistic rof at BR2
• ZK-383 to BR2 with small nerf to dmg
• Give them Steyr MP40 with 1100rpm at BR3
• Bring MKB42/STG44/Horn STG to BR3
• MP35/l dmg, recoil, rof and reload speed buff
• MAB-38 buff to it’s dmg (6.7) and recoil as it’s bad.
• TZ-45 to BR2
• Vastly decrease dispersion of mp40, beretta m1, m38/42

[GeneralBrus]

@Dregomz

Bring MKB42/STG44/Horn STG to BR3

yea, wow, my god…

[sku111]

@Cringemacht

bolt action rifles need guaranteed one hit kill and faster cycling

This is something I actually said in a suggestion, that bolt actions should have a standard cycle speed, maybe maxing around 60 rpm. Because in reality, other than a lever action or straight pull, who is cycling literally 1 shot per second. And some guns, notoriously the Type 99 (late), need a fire rate buff as there is literally no reason why it should cycle that slow. There are videos out there where it cycles faster than the mannlicher m95 ingame.

And the mosin can cycle as fast as the winchester. However, people thought it was unnecessary and took away the individual feel of the weapons, but it’s realistic. That’s why they were so widely used during WWII, because with enough skill, you could cycle as fast as a semi auto (taking aiming into account of course, not just mag dumping).

[Cleetus_WA]

Nobody can possibly take this post seriously.

You’ve seriously gone so far beyond what is arguably reasonable it’s just noise.