Even after recent buffs, there are more posts about buffing Germany than ever.
As a Germany main myself I am concerned about this, the devs will eventually stop listening when people cry about illogical and irrelevant topics all the time.
I invite everyone to have a thorough balance discussion here. We dont need 10 new Germany suffers topics every day.
Let me start:
I think that there is one specific thing that deserves fixing:
G41 vs M1 Garand vs SVT 38
G41 seems fair enough against M1, but SVT has a mag reload and Soviet armor stops it.
G41 should get a damage increase, while SVT38 should get its mag reload removed to bring it in line with other semi-autos at BR3.
SVT38 actually had the ability to be loaded with stripper clips, and since spare magazines weren’t really handed out on mass this would fit the gun anyways.
There is already not much difference in gun performance between BR3 and BR4, making rifles reload with magazines then uniquely be reserved for BR4.
Great suggestion! It will give us some balance between semi-auto’s at 3 br. Especially the playstyle difference between running around with SVT like an erzats assault or the longer distance g41 fueled by its lack of a reload speed.
Yeah I have seen many calls to buff reload speeds of G41 even further without people realising that its actually just the SVT38 that doesn’t fit the other BR3 rifles.
well, the only issue then is that the soviet and german guns reload with two stripper clips, which will take about 4 seconds each, and the Garand still reloads in one clip or 2.8 seconds (not counting upgrades). A better proposition would be just to downtier the G43 and SVT 40.
The other more important thing is that Germans need a serious SMG buff. The ZK-383 barely matches the PPS-43, which is a BR II gun, and the MP35 is worse than the M1A1 Thompson, which fires faster and deals more damage, also being a BR II gun. MP35 could do with 650rpm, as the MP35/I variant specifically (the one in game) did that in real life (the MP35 normal could only do 540rpm).
I dont like this, I agree with what Adamnpee says, the game is full of powecreep recently.
If you think M1 Garand would be then much better than G41 and SVT38, you can always increase its reload time a bit to make up for that.
Also M1 Garand has 2 less rounds and worse sights than SVT and G41. That should also count for something.
No no, I fully disagree with this example, yes PPS43 is much closer to BR3 guns than to BR2 guns, but ZK-383 is amazing, its low dispersion stat makes it basically more accurate than STGs, this is very very noticeable when you have the skill to utilise its accuracy.
I suspect there’s a reason for that…Since merge Everyone has been getting buffs…alot of them…Lots of Lowering of BRs. Some of them should have been there in the first place…some of them power creep to fix a situation like the PPS (which should have been the first item to be nerfed or moved to BR 3 before the power creep started)
But since merge Axis has had the most stuff change BR (up tiering) out of everyone. The most rules Enforced upon it. Not saying it doesn’t get love aswell… it does.
There is a MASSSIVE fear/disdain of AXIS gear and there are ALWAYS dozens of posts demanding it be a higher BR before its even come out on live…this isnt unique to axis but that it actually does get changed is, it occurs more than anyone else…Not always…
Remember all the crying about the HS129 Duck when it was announced? My god…glad that one avoided the chopping block…
All the Axis Gear Chopped, Or highly contested (since merge)
Allies have only had the Corsair moved up 1 BR, USSR Nothing (correct me If I am wrong)…AXIS is the first to be held accountable.
the give and take is well out of balance
Mains are always unhappy…But if your are too heavy handed one way over a long period of time, even the guys that play all factions start to notice and get irritated.
This is why we cant have nice things. Everyone deserves fun
Actually Euthymia said the more posts the better. So feel free to spam the suggestions as apparently that’s beneficial for the cause for some reason.
I don’t usually beat the drums on the forum for moving one weapon to this level and that weapon to another, and other then dropping of the base BAR1918 and the MP35 to level two, I think that has been about it. However I am an advocate of getting weapon specs “ACCURATE”. If DF had done this to begin with then we wouldn’t have people on here calling to buff this and de buff that multiple times a day. Stop choosing to give some weapons “Experimental” high numbers and give others the lowest numbers you could find and give them the all the “Most Common” usage of WW2 numbers, and do this with every weapon acrost the board.
BTW, let me add that the only reason I advocate the two weapons I have suggested is that The allies have no good MG at level two, and NO ONE is going to use the base BAR at level three. Likewise, the MP 35 is a level two smg at level three and no one is going to use it when they can use the ZK, so, it WILL NOT be used at level three, and some might use it at level two. There already is the short barreled MP35 at level two and the level three MP35 is basically the same smg, just with a longer barrel, so why keep it at level three?
This is not the reason behind my post - I put this into the messroom to have a discussion with the community - not to make a suggestion to the devs, there is too much stuff going on right now and people are coming up with so much crazy stuff, we should all sit down and actually look at what is what.
Allies and Soviets are just too strong. I play “play any faction” and I’ve just been lumped with Japan and Germany, and out of the all the games I’ve played today, every single one has been a loss. And not just a loss, a full blown stomp. In reality, if everyone is skeptical to buff because of “powercreep” (a bullshit concept created by those who abuse it the most), than they should instead nerf the Allies and Soviets.
To start off with the Soviets:
PPS 42 can stay, but it should have it’s fireate limited to 500rpm, which is what it did originally.
Now the Allies:
And in general, just nerf the effectiveness of all faction’s rockets. They are obnoxious and again, much like the grey zoning M4A3 105, create for an unengaging match.
can’t wait for the allies fanboys to whine and call for nerfs on Germany in retaliation
KV1 is nearly immortal in BR2, but also nearly useless in BR4.
Why ruin this tank completely by moving it to BR4? That 47mm KV1 is already worthless in BR4 and that one is a straight upgrade to BR3 KV.
“I am concerned about axis mains crying about stupid shit”
“Remove mag reload from SVT for balance reasons”
Well I want to give reasonable input instead of saying BR3 is unplayable so pls buff G41 - I think G41 is only terrible when specifically compared to SVT, M1 Garand isnt that much better.
So instead of buffing G41 even further, just accepting the slow reload speed but making SVT also get a clip reload like all the other BR3 rifles make sense.
This is one specific topic I can agree with recent discussions.
This is called “diplomacy”
I have read in the recent days so much crazy talk, cant you see where I am coming from?
But there’s an extremely clear reason for this “imbalance” in adjustments.
Germany has by far the most stuff in the tech tree, therefore there is realistically more room to discuss and adjust. And even if the mains are often in denial, axis has extremely good equipment. The reason why you notice is because it’s basically been meta since its so crazy strong for the BR (pz3N and IAR as particular examples of that)
Also for fairness, Axis has had a decent amount of downtiering as well.
Very good point - if you have tons of gear to choose from, but only one tank or SMG gets picked in 90% of the cases its more obvious its OP but only compared to the nations own guns.
Yes. And i actually agree with you. Axis mains complaining incessantly about equipment is at this point extremely lame.
But I’m sorry to say that your proposal is basically the same stuff
You are trying to tackle the very critical and game breaking imbalace of …a gun having a faster reload speed than another gun. And we basically need to nerf the reload speed of that other gun, so that the fucking stats comparison in excel sheets is not unfavourable to Axis.
There is no problem here to be fixed. Accept that your equipment might not be better in every single thing than other factions equipment.
Well that was again just one example of a gun that without a doubt is worse than the other, my point is that this is actually a realistic talking point - unlike stuff like prototype Panthers at BR3 to counter T34 or some other crazy stuff that gets posted here.