Any genuine ideas on giving Russia a 2nd br3 smg?

He was just kidding

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I know, but people have already specifically suggested exactly this.
I fear the worst

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DF is their worse enemy, over buffing many guns and under buffing others. The MP40 by all accounts shot 550 and that is where it should be in the game. However, many others like the FNAB 43 are under buffed, and even doing quick search of the Soviet PPS 43, it says it shot between 500 and 600 ROF, with it hitting 804 ROF “during testing”. On the FNAB, most searches I found say 600-837 ROF and I saw “ONE” saying a low end of 400. So DF used the higher numbers for the PPS 43, and the lower numbers for the FNAB 43, why? If DF would have just set every weapon in their “MOST COMMONLY” used configuration, we as players wouldn’t have as much reason to complain.

This is google search, so is it accurate? Who knows, but probably just as accurate as the numbers DF apparently is using. :wink:

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You don’t even need to do google searches for this, there are quite alot of videos on YouTube about old original guns shooting full auto.

You can hear the rate of fire.

STG shoots a tiny bit slower than MP40.

So STG actually had 500rpm

MP40 had 550 rpm

and PPS43 shoots a bit faster than MP40

So PPS shooting witg 600 rpm seems logical.

Many have pointed out that ammo loads and old springs can alter how fast those guns actually fired, but in a general sense this still should give us an idea about rates of fire.

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MP-40 in TT :dromedary_camel: :point_right: :point_left:

Isnt that the ppk 41? It was in the msocow founders bundle

use actual recoil, not imaginary recoil from the game.



so while type 2a has half vertical recoil, it has double horizontal recoil. vertical recoil is usually easier to control.

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Double the horizontal of the pps42 but the pps43 and the Type 2 are both 4 horizontal while the type 2a has half the 42’s vertical and a third of the 43’s vertical

I also notice where the type 2a has 20 less velocity, it also makes up by having less damage drop off

So how different are the stats shown inside the game? Is it completely irrelevant?

you have it in table. statcard recoil is what is shown in the game. but every weapon has its recoil multiplier(0.3 for pps42, 0.4 for type 2a) that gives actual recoil when multiplied with statcard recoil.

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like i said pps42 gets double vertical, but half horizontal recoil with more or less same stats. pps43 is slightly nerfed with recoil cause it is already powerful on BR2 cause of ROF. for those who can control recoil pps43 is superior option. for those who cant pps42 exists.

you mean 100 less velocity? although i doubt anyone will be spraying past 30-40m where both have more or less same efficiency in damage for SMG.

Just noticed I was reading the ones of the mp28 and type 2a. My bad but yeah