Anti-desertion should be next step

[Adamnpee]

@Conscript_Joe

Proposing pointless, and ultimately useless punishments won’t solve the issues.

Fixing exploits = punishments

I don’t know a single live service mp game, where stuff like this is possible.

[Burghlar]

@Conscript_Joe

Those who propose those punishments are funnily enough ppl who want to get back at deserters on a personal lvl instead of fixing “the why”.

As an auditor, I fully support this ^

[Conscript_Joe]

Funny how you ignore what’s just above:

@gastanofrizzi

Anyway best way to stop desertion is fix why people desert, standard cap time and reinforcements is a first step, next step is work on a better BR queque

[Adamnpee]

Absolutely clear. So why do all the other games have anti-desertion protection and players are penalized for doing it?

Unbelievable naivety. Or maybe just purposeful hypocrisy.

I haven’t suggested anything else than what is standard in other games.

[Winter_Storm]

@Conscript_Joe

Not until they remove reasons for desertion first.

I see a mode I hate? Bye.
I see an obvious sweat stack and my team got none, bye
A map I dislike, bye.
An uncooperative team? Bye. I don’t HAVE to carry noobs.
My team full o bots, other full? Bye.

Adjusts stats if you want, but don’t touch my squads.

Argue all you want about it, my answer to your “f you” will remain “well f you too”.

I play for MYSELF. Not strangers.

I would like to add that this game’s server selector is more of a server suggester since it can and will put you into a server where you don’t have selected

[GiltBurrito7238-live]

I will say that the vast majority of people who desert is because

• they got into a map they don’t like
• the match turns into a slog
• they’re losing
• they’re getting killed and salty

I do not agree with any of those whatsoever. I would never quit for any of those reasons. I like all maps, I play to the bitter end even if we’re losing, I shrug off getting sniped, one shotted, mortared, rocket, bombed, everything.

However like with many things I am a little different than the average player. Ok besides sometimes if you have to step away from the game, the only reason I quit is if MY loadout breaks historical immersion when I spawn. I know that this game’s historical fiber isn’t perfect (personally I hope one day BR or whatever is overhauled to be more historical) but for what it is I manage. My policy is usually if it was made in X year, it should only appear where it makes sense. The same goes for prototype stuff.

If I am BR 5 Germany and I have say the Stg 45, I only want to be in Berlin because that’s in 1945 the closest period to when that prototype weapon was made, I do not want to be in 1944 Normandy.

Or if in the near future we get an Iwo Jima map, if I have an entirely British loadout I would quit if I get sent there (because obviously everyone knows it wasn’t Britain storming the island)

[Conscript_Joe]

Because, ALL other games, have PROPER mm! They have PROPER mode selections features! They pit stacks against stacks! They equalize players vs bot ratios between teams!

Enlisted does none of that.

Enlisted mm is the worst I’ve ever seen.

And instead of implementing those very CORE features first, to truly fix what’s wrong, you ask to lower the fun even more for everyone.

Because ppl, will go with what they know. they will avoid punishments and stack in a single factions. Like the lemmings we both know the playerbase already is. you can deny it, but that’d be bad faith.

In fact it’s already bad faith:

@Adamnpee

Casual players usually don’t care whether they win or lose.

it’s false. nobody likes being a punching bag or an xp farm for sweats. No one.

i’m not even talking about the winner xp bonus here. clearly does not help spreading players evenly.

[gastanofrizzi]

Closed as requested from OP