That’s your opinion 
Some ppl believe deserters are the selfish ones. Some others (me included) believe those pro punishment to feel better about themselves, are the selfish ones.
In a detached view. The truth migh rest between the two opinions, since it appears clear it’s divided, without concensus.
i mean truth often lie so can we really trust “truth”? (btw i always find the “truth often lie” sentence so funny for some reason) 
All I want is to deserters not have obvious benefits over players who do not desert. The game should not tolerate benefits gained by bypassing the system .
Rest, I don’t really care.
At BR5 it’s definitely veterans deserting their matches but at low BR it’s mostly new players getting annoyed with the stomps and losing one point after another. I made countless players (especially holding a gamepad) ragequit because i killed them too many times. Sadly current MM is really pro-nation stacking and promotes playing only the popular nations for easy XP/Silver thanks to the win bonus.
completely made up number with no real value.
Yet you also pulled the “you’re the minority” thing out of thin air with no numbers to back yourself up. Only a problem when we do it, huh?
At this point you are literally making up weird nonsensical arguments to have the “upper hand” in the debate.
Like you did with that random EU jab?
Which you are doing just to flatter yourself, wrongly thinking it will make your opinion a little more relevant.
Again, you couldn’t be more ironic if you tried.
Anyone who is against punishment of desertion is simply selfish.
The only selfish one is the one who forces people to play things they don’t want to play.
And doesn’t want to play by the rules of the game
Show us the rule which says we MUST stay in a game.
It was clarified that punishments for desertion would be introduced only after most of the problems that had been listed as reasons for desertion will be addressed.
So why the need for desertion punishments? Fix the issue, people won’t desert unless they have to… you’ve just admitted here the punishments are an unnecessary step.
“it’s just about some overly spoiled people being just inscure.”
You’re right, you are. “Waah everyone must play exactly as I want them to play! Darkflow, make them!! waaah!”
“That they won’t be able to bypass the system anymore and benefit from it.”
Again, no one has been benefitting from leaving matches. They lose out on the XP and Silver from it… all it does is make them wait in matchmaking queue even longer. There’s no benefit to quitting matches that somehow “cheats the system”.
“And I have not seen a single argument that would disprove that.”
You have, you’ve just been ignoring them so that you don’t have to be wrong.
btw will give you some numbers to think about. 64.07% of players(unique) account for 16.1% total players in matches. 78.22%(or 215 639) of players (unique) account for 30.05% of people in matches. 9.91% (or 27 734) of players (unique) are responsible for 47.29% of people in matches.
core players are the ones playing majority of games (and probably deserting them).
as is anyone who is for desertion punishment. you think it will magically make game much better, despite ignoring obvious problems that game has with every major update. well it wont.
no it wasnt. there was planned section for some of the problems which they refused to clarify how will they solve them in this Q&A. i know cause i asked specifically. excuse me for remaining skeptical after how they handled merge.
idk why you are projecting so much insecurities. only benefit people get from deserting is getting out of shit match earlier (for whatever reason). if you force people to play shit matches they will just quit the game (or make the game even more shit).
i can now play BR5 germany only cause i am not forced to stay when US or soviets are just totally roflstomping germans. if there is desertion punishment while this is not fixed i will just play whatever stacked faction of month is or i will just quit the game altogether.
It makes more sense for them to just to add every squad type for the British and Italians and having each of their soldier classes available to purchase. American and British AT squads, American and British AT soldiers. If they allow this sort of “customization” we might end up with American squads with British voiced soldiers and vice versa
we already can get american with british cloth using bren gun carrier squad (i guess it a ship of theseus thing cause you can get rid of everyone but the drive)
What I want is ALSO less desertion… But not because ppl are being punished. Instead I want ppl to desert less, because the game becomes balanced and fun (unlike one sided matches unfun for both sides we have now).
What I want is to fix the reasons why ppl desert. It’s more than just “ppl desert just because they can”
same. they only addressed part of the problem on why people desert in their plans. map preference (which idk how will they implement, just hope not another “soft” rule), looking into stack MM(again no info), but they didnt mention anything about faction stacking which is imho bigger problem than people deserting.
Yeah It is really weird that their reply for deserter penatly was more detailed than the ones for map preferences or stack issues, which was basically just a side note in deserter penalty.
And we should trust this?
Hey DarkFlow it’s called HandGun not HandsGun.
He might be referring to Brexit. Like EU is something you can “easily” quit. In that case it’s still a poor association. It’s ridiculous to have a game even more difficult to quit from than the EU.
Oh no! I guess my exp and silver earning will drop for the next few battles.
What if I didn’t desert but left due to connectivity issues?
Is there any distinction between a disconnect form network issues and a disconnect from leaving the match early?
Players from Asia and Oceania sometime face connection issue due to not having game servers dedicated to their region. Do they get penalize simply because of the region they live in?
I disagree.
Bypassing system shouldn’t be a feature, especially beneficial one.
I couldn’t have cared less about desertion if the deserters actually hadn’t a single benefit over normal players.
Extremely naive. Desertion will always be a thing. You can’t prevent it. But it definitely shouldn’t be rewarded.
Plus we’ve already been told punishments for desertion will be implemented only after most reasons why people desert are addressed.
i am confused about what you think is reward for desertion? 1.5 multiplier for possible win in another match? map that doesnt suck? teammates that dont suck (or are equally bad as in other team)? not wasting time with braindead teammates/bots?
tell me why should i stay in these kind of matches?
who has his experience ruined with staying in these kind of matches?
Now who is the extremely naive one? 
What do you mean? Like British soldiers in American uniforms? Ideally the uniform should change with the voice.
The ability to roll an imaginary dice until the ideal game you dreamed up comes up.
Someone’s blocking a vehicle slot? Cool, just leave that game and try your luck again.
Someone instantly kills your soldier with a new GO weapon? Cool, you definitely don’t want to wait another 2 squares instead you just quit the game a try again. .
Got a bad team? Cool, then just leave match…
I don’t know, it just seems totally stupid to me. That something like this should be an unpunishable feature. I find it completely sick.
There’s so many reasons why someone would want to desert. But this game simply isn’t only about one person. In most matches there’s another 9 people in his team. And they’re affected by his desertion. Especially on higher BRs. Where difference between bot and real players is truly significant.
Desertion is just bypassing the system, taking advantage of its flaws.
It definitely should be think of as feature.
And I think most reasons why people do desert are absolutely pathetic.
I’m fine with fragmenting the player base, sometimes I like intense PVP, and sometimes I like bot games, depends on my mood, sometimes I enjoy being sweaty, other times like after a 12 hour shift, I just want to chill and pew pew bots.
How about letting rocket artillery strike the grey zone?
Get this done please, ‘World of Warships’ has a similar system, its reduced XP, but you still get XP and its a great way to chill out.
Great news, can we get some better motorbike sounds please.
IMHO mines are fine as they are, they bring a level of chaos and unpradictability into the game, I always laugh when I get taken out by one as it’s so unexpected, plus they’re a good counter for sweatlords. Mines are fun, don’t ruin them.
You can’t force people to do something they don’t want to do, this commisar like attitude just isn’t going to work, if somebody tries to get me to do something I don’t want to do, I will definatley without exception 100% not comply. forcing people to stay in a game when they are hugely uptiered or badly matched with an enemy team full of sweatlords and sometimes hackers, (and this happens reasonably regularily) I’ll just quit and you can’t stop me, nerf my XP, ban me I will not tolerate being treated like that. Others will do similar, and I don’t care about my XP, my sanity is more important. Maybe you should take a good hard look at your matchmaking, or PVE options? I know people that quit as soon as a match starts and that’s not something I do or approve of, so maybe have a 3 minute timer before removing any penalty?
