Since moscow campaing has added most of the small arms possible.(MP40, PPSH41, K98, M91/30)
There will be new levels and recycling things would be bad. So for moscow adding ski troops would be and interesting idea and would make the campaing unique.
For ex new squads.
Soviets: Red army ski battalion. New weapon PPSH41 (box) (what else to add lol?)
Germans: German ski unit. New weapon KP31. (Also could add these as finnish volunteers.)
The skis could be used for quick flanking, can be fast if skied down hills, and you can fire your guns while skiing. These troops would not deploy with skis but simply as conventional troops in maps where there is no snow. (Maisky forestry, Beloe lake, Quarry)
it wouldn’t work, you know how long it would take to grind a squad at lv 33 with maybe only 5 members in total, it would end up with the players taking the weapon and never using the squad, such an idea would look good in a future winter war, where the skis were used there
probably the only norwegian on the forum here to tell you some fun facts about skiing
while traversing flat terrain you will need ski poles and therefore you will not be able to fire until you drop them and draw your rifle.
while going down hill you could in theory pull out a gun and fire. however. by the time you manage to draw the gun you are likely already at the bottom of the hill. and even if the hill is long enough, you will still be lucky to hit anything at all. especially if you are an inexperienced german recruit.
there is a reason that (as you see in @gastanofrizzi 's picture) they usually let go of the poles, drop to the ground and fire from prone
they would be great to travel long distances where you dont need to be ready to shoot people. but at the current state of the game, there are no maps large enough for it to be an advantage over just running with your rifle in hand
If we do get a winter war/continuation war campaign, though, it would be cool if they add the Lahti L-39 AT rifle, complete with accurately modelled recoil so you can slide backwards when you shoot XD
They would be used only for some maps. The best of course would be fortified district, fully covered, lots of hills to slide down and lots of flanking routes that take up a lot of time on foot. Like for example the flank around the forest on the attacker side 2nd obj. Or the last onj when attacking you can flank on the far left where you wont even be seen. So yes skis would be situational but still useful in some spots. Like some of the other classes like flamethrowers, only really usefull for certain objectives. When i was writing the post i mainly had fortified district and vysokovo in mind. So try to implement skis on those maps. But that requires a lot of map knowlage so people who maxed out moscow like me you can also point out some usefull flanks and such.
Whats your point? I really dont get it. “People wouldnt use basically assaulters that have better mobility tools”. If some people dont like them fine. But this would add a bigger playground and make moscow unique. And they were used extensively so theres no reason not to add them. If people dont want to use them then they can not use them but plenty of people would.
while this is true with rifle, it was done with kp31. Especiatly with long range patrol squads, always kept the kp31 under right / left arm when moving towards enemy location / generally moved at enemy area where enemy was expected.
Like the guy at right side. Shooting while on skis did happen especiatly with long range patrol squads.
And was done / used to some extend at raatteentie motti.
How effective it was is another thing, but still taught to this day.
We want motorcycles too in other campaings! Theyre a faster mode of travel for assaulters basically that has an MG. Yes ski troops may be usseles for a lot of maps that have no snow, but i kinda wrote the post when i was only thinking about fortified district, where the map is HUGE, has plenty of snow, hills you can generate speed from, plenty of flanking routes.
although having the kp31 strapped like this would make it faster to draw. i would imageine they would still need to come to a complete stop before being able to use it effectively on flat terrain.
if you are chasing someone down a very long hill (as @115438023 stated), you might have the motor skills to hipfire the kp31 somewhat accurately while also not crashing in a tree. but it would be rather difficult, and you would not be able to properely aim or reload.
you also have to consider that usually you are going really fucking fast down hill on skis, and a slight imbalance (like aiming your gun) can send you tumbling into a rock. if you are not very skilled
however it is important to remeber that these hills dont exist in game
It was usually the pointman that had gun ready on patrols sking on 1 pole and gun ready on another.
Definitely less accurated than aimed shots but for pointman opening / returning fire was question of life or death.
Agree and for that time frame the skis was rather usual way of moving from a to b even during peace time so fairly few finn lacked the skills needed to ski. Also Lauri Törni did chase down some soviets hipfiring on skis on frozen lake so its not exactly a impossible task, effectiveness is definitely another thing.
Well id argue aiming thru sights is something that id rate near impossible, hipfiring is entirely another thing.
Yeah, perhaps at somepoint they would find a sweetspot without RNG how effective or not effective it should be.
