American BR4 is already dead, GJ the merge killed the game

That’s completely irrelevant for the matter of game balance.
In this game it is always 0-2 vs 0-2 tanks. They should have similar power level. That’s literally what battle rating means. That’s why mp3008 is BR2 weapon and it is facing grease guns, completely ignoring any historical facts.

Seems like you are unable to understand what BR means. And why it would be better to put current BR5 US tanks to BR4 instead.
Especially since proper BR5 US Tanks are already in development.
I really don’t understand why do you think that’s something crazy.

It is completely irrelevant for what they were designed to in real life.
I guess type 97 AT rifle wasn’t designed to shot down p38 (while soldier is standing) either. Yet that’s exactly what I am doing with it in game.

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Nah. Just 4/6 campaigns were dead and 5/6 were constantly one-sided, number stagnated for years.
Cleary success, especially if we lower expectations to the point where game is a success if it didnt shut down.

But only those you like I guess.

We just dont know which war he means and since whenever DF started to care so much about reality when they also make up armor values of wood tanks at the same time.

Nah. I think the vast number of Wehraboos and low numbers of Yankees in BR5 is cleary a sign of healthy game.

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ah yes.

let’s keep shifting the goal post because you have nothing to say and just want to argue or not truly meaning what you actually think.

i was more talking about war thunder.

well…

if tritler would say murder is wrong.

is he wrong?

as a person, yes.
for the statement, i’d think not.

beside, keo wasn’t wrong on that one.

at least that time.

and no, there’s quite a lot i didn’t liked.

now that’s funny

where are those lower numbers of yanks?

haven’t saw many.

perhaps in the pacific.

br v it’s kinda full and matches don’t take that long

Wut?

I always kept referring to this. Because that’s how this whole debate has started.

I completely agree with everything he has said. And you, for whatever reason, do not think that’s reasonable.

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Well. If Df at the same time blows up Kindergartens and innocent people Seagal-style, I dont know why they should teach us about the morality of murder/ Df makes this game as arcadish as possible and gives no shit about history, keeps making up amor values such as the Jap Wood Tank or the mantlet of the Panther but now wants us to tell about real war, its getting a bit off here.

War Thunder has maps, working shells and models and their tanks are not capped at 30-40kmh or so.
Not really the same.

I was talking about vets etc. because so far at least I only meet them at best in BR3 and below.

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I don’t want to be rude or anything like that but :

  • On War Thunder forum, players of US are always complaining like cry babies : “Germany is OP”
  • On Enlisted forum, palyers of US are always complaining like cry babies… “Germany is OP”

So, what is the matter ? It’s that most think a game with a minimum of realism should be balanced the same way as an arcade shooter. “Everything should be the same, equal power”

What’s the point to play a WW2 “realistic” game with various equippments from real belligerents if you don’t want to apply WW2 irl tactics to answer the enemy threats
It’s not Battlefield or any of these fake ww2 games.
Also, for sure we don’t want the game to be unbalanced, and in fact he’s not that unbalanced, the actual br system helps to give each team the same chances of winning,
it mitigate the gaps between nations.
It’s not a game with only infantry units, we also have vehicules and planes, it’s very good.

From my experience, each nations have some specializations →
Germany = Big Kitties and good AT weapons
US = Best CAS and Good infantry overall (BR2-3, I really like their weapons :heart: )
Soviet = Great infantry (assaulters and paras seems to be very effective)

On the battlefield, it is not :

  • Our tanks equal to theirs, infantry units equal to theirs, our planes equal to theirs.
    No, it’s more like :
  • Enemies have THIS, we have THAT to counter. They counter it with THESE, we answer with THOSE etc

It makes it even more authentic !
I remember raging because I was getting killed by bombs or by a tank as an infantryman, I was like “Why is it in the game ?” I then realize : “It’s so realistic, IRL all those weapons were used to counter the pros and cons of nations doctrines.”

From my humble point of view, matches really depends on the skills of each players, the game has flaws for sure but not that hard about balance (not as the op tries to show).

So I understand that sherman should be brIV and then, pershing brV : it’s fair.
But don’t complain about the equippments :
A KT should not need to flank to destroy a tank, it’s heavy and not adequate to do so.
American tanks may be “mediocre” as irl, flanking maneuvers and coordinationg ground and air force are very adequate to deal with opponent forces.

Enlisted has a lot to do to become excellent, but it has the basis : Teams can use their strengths to take the advantage.

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100% Agree

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Japs low BR is kinda meh, good thing to hear that high BR is kicking 4ss…