American BR4 is already dead, GJ the merge killed the game

Only most tryhards are playing JP side (chinese as always) while nobody plays as the Americans it’s 1vs8. I just wasted 250% xp booster.


Can’t play BR5 because Axis has op KT, can’t play BR4 because nobody plays it as the Allies, can’t play BR3 because you will get matched against BR5 KT and JP tryhards. Only BR2 is semi playable but you are still at an disadvantage with mediocre tanks. State of the American nation is exactly as i expected before merge (i was only wrong about low BR axis not being played but they gave them better smgs at BR2 so they are now just fine)

1 Like

It has been like this for weeks already. Funnily enough, people are only crying about ho Germany is popular. When is fact, Japanese is even more bloated with marshalls on BR4. I basically haven’t seen any white rank guy while playing BR4 Japanese.

5 Likes

The US military in BR5 beat the shit out of the German army
Why play BR4? P47 and paratroopers are in BR5

3 Likes

Very true, the organization of the Japanese army atm is the best I’ve ever seen since the release of Pacific. Lines of ammo and rallies, pristine marks and bombs.

Brings a tear to my eye :cry:

1 Like

he wants pacific probably

BR 3 gamble needs to change

every US tank that is ranked BR5 needs to get lowered into BR4

Drum Thompson needs to get lowered into BR4

M2 Carbine needs a sight overhaul

US needs a high damage select fire rifle for BR5 that performs like AVT and FG - Johnson Lmg could fit for that.

US is lacking a BR5 worthy hand-held anti tank weapon.

2 Likes

The Pacific is a classic case
Although the IJA’s weapons look inferior to those of the US military
But a large number of experienced players lead them to victory

After some Matches with the western allies yesterday I think the main problem wit them is, that there are only a very small amount of vets and older players playing them. I won 1 Match with the western allies and that was a Vet (probably a stack) stom against new german players. Most matches I see 1 Rally (mine) or maybe a second. Most players seem to be new and dont have a clue about basics like rallypoints, marking and playing the objective.

If they lose then again and again I dont thin they will stay with this faction and switch. This results in no players in high BR and more stomping of the western allies in low BR. We need more incentives to play a low populatet faction ASAP or we will have big problems.

1 Like

you sure posses a twisted sense of humor

i mean, occasional kt that can be surgically removed with a p47, BR V as american it’s not that bad.

2 Likes

Whats your issue?

personally, while playing american BR V?

none.
( perhaps KT barell. that thing doesn’t get destroyed by several shells when firing at it… but beside that, nothing else really )

you on the other hand?.

it seems too many.

asking to drop br of the drum thommy gun?

complains about the m2?

complaining about the m9?

least crazy enlisted member.

line up







historical accurate loadouts too :ok_hand: outside… the m2. but…

best us weapon. at least, one of my favorite after the merge

1 Like

Well I 90% play as Germans anyways, however every time I face US players I pity them.

Most good weapons for the US are heavily suffering from terrible sights, and M9 seems rather weak compared to Panzerfaust and Panzerschreck.

Also I don’t see how SMGs can compete with select fire weapons in general.
The only redeeming quality the M2 Carbine has is its availability.

I don’t know what exactly seems so crazy to you about my opinion.

2 Likes

how … can you complain about something if you haven’t even played them?

with the right perks etc, it’s kinda managable.

unless i’m cracked and got used to italian sights.

beside the m9 is the answer to pretty much all of your problems. after a p51 or 47 / 22 that is.

and tank hunting is legit, the most fun you can have with it.

granted, he will not frontally pen panthers or tigers II.

but as long it’s from the side, or perfectly alligned you can pen almost anything else from the front.

such as the panzer IVs, the tank destroyers, and anything else.

you will be somewhat spending your time flanking and taking panoramic routes though.

i mean, not too unrealistic.

it’s not like the US had that many weapons.

i think and from my own experience, believe it’s somewhat fine as the stuff they got is reliable as it is.

they don’t really need much else.
beside the piershing i guess. to somewhat eaven out or reliably have a heavy tank for the US.

dunno how lowering the drum thompson would be a good idea.

you’d be just shifting the problem.

and… quite frankly, the m9 is truly glorious in what it does.

failed me only once or twice.

but beside that, a solid AT.
( that is, certainly better than the ones engies uses )

also. lowering all tanks to br 4?

you just hate the japanese, don’t ya.

3 Likes

I do agree him. BR5 US tanks just aren’t comparable to BR5 German tanks.
Stuff like Pershings, T29, jumbo with 76 and so should be BR5, not current ones. Especially since panther is BR4 and it is better than basically any BR5 US tanks.

Same goes for smgs. Japanese don’t even have BR5 sbalancet funnily enough lot of Japanese smgs are way better than US ones. And they do have way more comfortable sights.

Yeah, you can win against Germany while playing BR5 US, but you’re in constant disadvantages. You constantly have to solve problems which wouldn’t be even real problems with German equip.
You just have to show more skill and more effort to win over Germany.
But that’s not what BR system should be. It should be properly and adequately balanced.

Iirc it is BR2/3 AT launcher with 102 pene. That’s complete joke in comparison to pfaust 60. And US do not have anything better atm.
So stop lying to yourself.
It is just not balanced

2 Likes

not quite.

just because they lack armor, doesn’t mean they are bad tanks by any mean, or any worse than it’s counterpart.

panther unironically despite it’s frontal armor, doesn’t really have much going for it.

you can even pen it’s side if slighlty angled. which due to terrain or position of where the enemy comes from, i hardly see anyone being always able to face it’s sloped armor to enemy threats.

sneaking up tanks is also easy.

as you said, it’s not entirely about tank and tank engagement.

now you changed your mind on it?

can’t really speak on that since i don’t play japanese forces.

nor planning to as of yet.

first i want to fully research the US, then USSR and as of last, japan.

i wouldn’t called that disadvantage.

because the tools are there.

i believe it’s more about playerbase being diversified.
kinda pushing you over having to do everything your self.

perhaps i have habits of needing to do just that.

but, i can’t really complain over US high tier as they are cooperative enough and get the job done most of the time.

which, sometimes you win, and others you lose.

it’s not disadvanatage as japan used to be during the test versions.

it’s more of equipment being somewhat more different.

and US has more of close quarter " doctrine " opposed as germany where it’s more of a jack of all engagements.

i don’t inherently see anything wrong with that.

because at the end of the day, smoke artilleries, and rushing the point with thommies in hipfire rarely failes.

US does not lack in the compartment of AIR ( heck, i’d argue they dominate there ) nor vehicles.

so… i don’t think i can agree to that.

or rather,

not sure that’s actually duable.

because of asymetrical balance i guess which it’s still dominant in end tiers and what not.

you can check my own replays :woman_shrugging:

every single game i have at least killed a tank between one to three shots from the front, side or slighlty angled.

barely drop of, fast reload ( almost too fast for my liking in all honesty. because looks goofy ) ,

it’s more than great.

( and you certainly don’t see me complaining about it :wink: )

2 Likes

That’s completely ridiculous. There’s no point of arguing with you if this is your opinion.
You are just not objective or do not have enough experience with those vehicles.

As I have said, you have to be always “problem solver” with BR5 US tanks.
With BR5 German tanks, you don’t have any nedd to aim. You will penetrate BR5 US basically anywhere.

That’s still not have changed anything on the fact that pfaust is way superior.

1 Like

→ literallys owns and have every single tank of both faction fully upgraded

" yOu Are NoT oBjEcTive "

sounds more like a projection my friend.


:clown_face:

you and your self complained about the game not being around tank balancement?

and now in less than a few days you changed your own mind?

kinda :clown_face: of you if you ask me.

because that wasn’t the main argument.

it’s not meant to be the same thing.

it just works if you use it correctly and not expecting it to be a panzerfaust.

there are some differences there.

if anything, sounds like you’re playing too much of germany and expect the other factions to be identical :woman_shrugging: ( and… somewhat complaining that they aren’t (?)

2 Likes

I do play as US from time to time, but I have no interest at grinding further than BR3, because of lack of proper gear.

Well that’s what I mean, German hand held AT can pen from the front - M9 can’t. Which makes is much much inferior.

Well don’t get me wrong, you can dominate with the drum Thompson no doubt, but I just think Assault rifles do the same job while also having more range.

Also specifically speaking about the drum Thompson, I can see it fit into BR5 unlike all other SMGs in the entire game, if it had better dispersion and especially good ironsights.

In my mind no Japanese Tank deserves BR4 to begin with, stat wise the best Japanese tank is basically only a Panzer IV to be honest.

T-34-85 is BR IV, 76mm Sherman is BR V. Panther is IV.
This is just ridiculous.
BRs are usually supposed to be counters and 76mm is counter to Panthers and Tigers, not Tiger 2s.

2 Likes

That’s not the same case, since all BR5 US line up is objectively worse. It’s not only about the one tank or one AT launcher.

M9 is objectively worse than pfaust and early pshreck. And you don’t have anything better atm.
American BR5 tanks are objectively worse than BR5 german tanks.
American smgs are joke. Funnily enough the best US smg is m2c which isn’t even classified as smg (and yes, it does have playstyle of smg). It is not equivalent for FG. Equivalent for FG is t20 which is limited GO.
The only good thing about US are versatile LMGs (which are basically just ARs but more limited in numbers, since gunners are more limited in numbers than assaulters) and planes (but German on other hand do have very good planes as well)

So don’t even try to use my previous argumentation about why KV1 isn’t problematic on BR3. It is completely different thing.

And funnily enough, your opinion is only hurting US faction.

2 Likes