American BR4 is already dead, GJ the merge killed the game

Well I 90% play as Germans anyways, however every time I face US players I pity them.

Most good weapons for the US are heavily suffering from terrible sights, and M9 seems rather weak compared to Panzerfaust and Panzerschreck.

Also I don’t see how SMGs can compete with select fire weapons in general.
The only redeeming quality the M2 Carbine has is its availability.

I don’t know what exactly seems so crazy to you about my opinion.

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how … can you complain about something if you haven’t even played them?

with the right perks etc, it’s kinda managable.

unless i’m cracked and got used to italian sights.

beside the m9 is the answer to pretty much all of your problems. after a p51 or 47 / 22 that is.

and tank hunting is legit, the most fun you can have with it.

granted, he will not frontally pen panthers or tigers II.

but as long it’s from the side, or perfectly alligned you can pen almost anything else from the front.

such as the panzer IVs, the tank destroyers, and anything else.

you will be somewhat spending your time flanking and taking panoramic routes though.

i mean, not too unrealistic.

it’s not like the US had that many weapons.

i think and from my own experience, believe it’s somewhat fine as the stuff they got is reliable as it is.

they don’t really need much else.
beside the piershing i guess. to somewhat eaven out or reliably have a heavy tank for the US.

dunno how lowering the drum thompson would be a good idea.

you’d be just shifting the problem.

and… quite frankly, the m9 is truly glorious in what it does.

failed me only once or twice.

but beside that, a solid AT.
( that is, certainly better than the ones engies uses )

also. lowering all tanks to br 4?

you just hate the japanese, don’t ya.

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I do agree him. BR5 US tanks just aren’t comparable to BR5 German tanks.
Stuff like Pershings, T29, jumbo with 76 and so should be BR5, not current ones. Especially since panther is BR4 and it is better than basically any BR5 US tanks.

Same goes for smgs. Japanese don’t even have BR5 sbalancet funnily enough lot of Japanese smgs are way better than US ones. And they do have way more comfortable sights.

Yeah, you can win against Germany while playing BR5 US, but you’re in constant disadvantages. You constantly have to solve problems which wouldn’t be even real problems with German equip.
You just have to show more skill and more effort to win over Germany.
But that’s not what BR system should be. It should be properly and adequately balanced.

Iirc it is BR2/3 AT launcher with 102 pene. That’s complete joke in comparison to pfaust 60. And US do not have anything better atm.
So stop lying to yourself.
It is just not balanced

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not quite.

just because they lack armor, doesn’t mean they are bad tanks by any mean, or any worse than it’s counterpart.

panther unironically despite it’s frontal armor, doesn’t really have much going for it.

you can even pen it’s side if slighlty angled. which due to terrain or position of where the enemy comes from, i hardly see anyone being always able to face it’s sloped armor to enemy threats.

sneaking up tanks is also easy.

as you said, it’s not entirely about tank and tank engagement.

now you changed your mind on it?

can’t really speak on that since i don’t play japanese forces.

nor planning to as of yet.

first i want to fully research the US, then USSR and as of last, japan.

i wouldn’t called that disadvantage.

because the tools are there.

i believe it’s more about playerbase being diversified.
kinda pushing you over having to do everything your self.

perhaps i have habits of needing to do just that.

but, i can’t really complain over US high tier as they are cooperative enough and get the job done most of the time.

which, sometimes you win, and others you lose.

it’s not disadvanatage as japan used to be during the test versions.

it’s more of equipment being somewhat more different.

and US has more of close quarter " doctrine " opposed as germany where it’s more of a jack of all engagements.

i don’t inherently see anything wrong with that.

because at the end of the day, smoke artilleries, and rushing the point with thommies in hipfire rarely failes.

US does not lack in the compartment of AIR ( heck, i’d argue they dominate there ) nor vehicles.

so… i don’t think i can agree to that.

or rather,

not sure that’s actually duable.

because of asymetrical balance i guess which it’s still dominant in end tiers and what not.

you can check my own replays :woman_shrugging:

every single game i have at least killed a tank between one to three shots from the front, side or slighlty angled.

barely drop of, fast reload ( almost too fast for my liking in all honesty. because looks goofy ) ,

it’s more than great.

( and you certainly don’t see me complaining about it :wink: )

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That’s completely ridiculous. There’s no point of arguing with you if this is your opinion.
You are just not objective or do not have enough experience with those vehicles.

As I have said, you have to be always “problem solver” with BR5 US tanks.
With BR5 German tanks, you don’t have any nedd to aim. You will penetrate BR5 US basically anywhere.

That’s still not have changed anything on the fact that pfaust is way superior.

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→ literallys owns and have every single tank of both faction fully upgraded

" yOu Are NoT oBjEcTive "

sounds more like a projection my friend.


:clown_face:

you and your self complained about the game not being around tank balancement?

and now in less than a few days you changed your own mind?

kinda :clown_face: of you if you ask me.

because that wasn’t the main argument.

it’s not meant to be the same thing.

it just works if you use it correctly and not expecting it to be a panzerfaust.

there are some differences there.

if anything, sounds like you’re playing too much of germany and expect the other factions to be identical :woman_shrugging: ( and… somewhat complaining that they aren’t (?)

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I do play as US from time to time, but I have no interest at grinding further than BR3, because of lack of proper gear.

Well that’s what I mean, German hand held AT can pen from the front - M9 can’t. Which makes is much much inferior.

Well don’t get me wrong, you can dominate with the drum Thompson no doubt, but I just think Assault rifles do the same job while also having more range.

Also specifically speaking about the drum Thompson, I can see it fit into BR5 unlike all other SMGs in the entire game, if it had better dispersion and especially good ironsights.

In my mind no Japanese Tank deserves BR4 to begin with, stat wise the best Japanese tank is basically only a Panzer IV to be honest.

T-34-85 is BR IV, 76mm Sherman is BR V. Panther is IV.
This is just ridiculous.
BRs are usually supposed to be counters and 76mm is counter to Panthers and Tigers, not Tiger 2s.

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That’s not the same case, since all BR5 US line up is objectively worse. It’s not only about the one tank or one AT launcher.

M9 is objectively worse than pfaust and early pshreck. And you don’t have anything better atm.
American BR5 tanks are objectively worse than BR5 german tanks.
American smgs are joke. Funnily enough the best US smg is m2c which isn’t even classified as smg (and yes, it does have playstyle of smg). It is not equivalent for FG. Equivalent for FG is t20 which is limited GO.
The only good thing about US are versatile LMGs (which are basically just ARs but more limited in numbers, since gunners are more limited in numbers than assaulters) and planes (but German on other hand do have very good planes as well)

So don’t even try to use my previous argumentation about why KV1 isn’t problematic on BR3. It is completely different thing.

And funnily enough, your opinion is only hurting US faction.

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Only reason why 76mm are V is because DF thinks its funny to delay Pershings/ US Tier Vs and waste time by giving us useless filler III tanks we dont need rn.
Because otherwise US BR V tanks would be pretty empty.

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Sure, the Thompson SMG may not be the best looking SMG, but it is this wayward girl that appeals to the machoismo of us American faction players. :muscle: :muscle: :muscle:
In fact, since the merge I have continued to destroy Germans and JAPS every time I play in the US.
yOu cAN NoT deFeaT uS.

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what gear could you possibly need that isn’t somewhat there already beside a t29?

you can’t expect a rocket to outperform a shape charge?

rather, you can’t really complain about different outcomes for tools that needs to be used differently.

especially when we’re talking about MM.

germans kitties are relatively much heavier than pretty much most of the allied tanks.

not to mention, some of those are even sloped ( KT & panthers )

which … " flank it bro " it’s actually the solution if you want to use reliably said tool that will take out tanks.

either that, or a good bomb will do the job.

the choises are there.

feels more someone is afraid to put the effort to actually destroy said tanks.

but, there’s nothing wrong to gear up and farm some mains that play low ranks because they are too afraid of soviets or americans.

now that i think about it, the germans did had the drum smg from the soviets and it’s considered a br four weapons.

it’s just that… i believe it would cause more issues to the japanese.

and not really be balanced.

a bit tricky.
and i don’t have any solutions to be fair.

i don’t disagree there.

but… doesn’t looks like devs thinks alike.

hence, i’d rather damage control and somewhat be balance or fair in all scenarios when possible.

not really.

king tigers are not that unbeatable from 76s.

they are, however bugged i believe.

because once again, a king tiger barrel shouldn’t survive from HE or AP to the barrel.

yet it does.

if anything, it just needs a few tweaks to it’s durabilty.

because as much i had initial concerns about king tigers, they are not that invincible as people may think.

and unironically most of the maps outside d-day allows to flank and side shot the big kat.

if not, bombs do not makes distinctions.

not really.

i have yet to feel outmached in any of the 40 games that i have played this week against the US.

which i won’t deny that i have lost some matches.

but that is, because i was the only one on the point…
and those games do happens either way.

should the game instead hand held my hand and give me everything to one solo the entire german army?

no of course not.

as much it’s true you can somewhat keep your own against the allies, you will never win alone.

and if anything, i believe it’s the german army who is boring and somewhat the problem.

cooperation is hardly needed. they somewhat have it easy.
but i digress.

because you’re comparing stuff that aren’t the same thing, nor were really supposed to be.

as far as the war goes, stuff is often a counter.

all to say, stop being a bitch, get smokes, and rush that point with smg.

or bomb the shit out of them to then advance.

that’s the american way. baby. a dream, and a a lord’s work.

except, it still stands.

you and your self said, tank balance 1v1 is dumb. and not the focus of this game.

inspite of my opinions, us are kinda dominating top tier.

so… i don’t really see the problems.

other than some people not willing to pull their weight.

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if anything,

slighlty annoyed that people cry too much and demands to artificially tweak, nerf or upgun stuff because they can’t cope with stuff that they got.

without pulling their own weights, or put the actual effort in.

( impact spammer can get the full hammering for my liking. they deserve no respect or sympathy )

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I couldn’t care less, I do have calliope, 4 T20s, Premium paras with thompsons 100, premium jumbo, vickers paras, premium brit flamers.

All of it is way better than half of available tech tree f2p BR5 line up.

But keep defending it. Seems like you are not pro healthy balance of the game.
It will not affect me, since I can still keep farming people like yourself.

I am just saying, current BR5 US line up is objectively worse than any other BR5 line up. But whatever.

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i suppose we’ll have to agree to disagree honey :wink:

… unless you want to add cold war vehicles and weapons to compete " fairly ".

I guess that is a good point, barrels and gun breaches do absorb quite a lot of damage, in my mind evey tank in this game deserves to have more weak spots, especially turret shot traps, which would bakance out quite a lot of vehicles.

And while at it, not just the Jumbo should have a “MG Port weakspot” but every tank that had thin armor at these spots should have problems in this regard.

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Im sorry that I consider lol flanking, pixle aiming and shoot barrel+track not as long-term balance…
Or questioning the logic that tank B and C with similar performace are lower tiered than tank A for no reason.

Just lower 76mm Shermans. I dont know why this is considered too much.

I can honestly say that I continue to play the American faction and have never had any complaints other than the fact that there are some matches where the “number of players” is not even. No kidding.
Sure the current American tanks are inferior to the German King Tigers in defense and offensive capabilities, but they are infantry support tanks and I don’t want them to have the ability to easily defeat a King Tiger. I think the King Tiger is more of a threat to land forces because I think it is more immersive.
The game is not too one-sided with the King Tiger’s presence, and the US has aircraft that can swiftly reduce the King Tiger to ashes. As for infantry capabilities, they have the M2 carbine that all riflemen can be equipped with.
I think the problem with people being biased towards the German faction is not so much the performance of the gear, but simply because there are somewhat more people who are attached to Germany, and more Sissy in the game who want to safely beat the enemy by sticking with the majority.

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they made an entire game out of it :skull:

controversially sucesfull too.

i’m afraid we’re kinda too far deep to reverse now.

as once someone said: ( :fox_face: )

war is not fair

which it’s true.

so, i don’t inherently see wrong by having to flank, or bomb it.
( or use my m9 :smirk: )

in this one, i’ll admit, i’m not really the right person to discuss those.

i guess some of my suggestions about brs were still implemented, such as bikes and shotguns, as well as few others but… yeah. not something revolutionary.

as far as it goes, we both know it wouldn’t make a difference because br IV still faces BR V and you would just reverse the problem on the japanese.

unless br IV becomes on it’s own and japanese do not go over tier III ( good luck ) you will have full equipped and somewhat time travellers stomping mid br III american players.

because, will it be really a solution?

i’m afraid not.

based

( and i don’t say that alot )

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