Are aircraft hit markers just desynced? I see a lot of people complaining about bullets not doing enough and they blast their entire cannon belt into the plane. I’ve also noticed in these clips the hits seem like they aren’t hits - they appear to go slightly lower or higher than the aircraft surface.
I tried a few cannon-only shots (machine guns seem to have damage drop?) and i’ve snapped a few wings already.
Do hit markers respond to bounces or grazing hits?
Yes, hit markers respond to any contact with the plane, even grazes and glancing shots. Most people who are complaining about cannons and guns not doing enough damage are typically just dumping all their rounds into the enemy plane’s tail, instead of going for engines, wings and pilots. The fuselage of planes is very bullet spongey, which leads people to believe that the enemy plane is invincible. In reality, the enemy plane has taken damage, just not enough to kill them.
to be fair @LordBeaverbroke you shouldn´t be able to fly like nothing happens if your tail is completely wrecked by constant fire…
So it actually makes sense to go for the tail.
No
Aim ahead of the lead indicator since it only indicates the direction you should lob your shots, not the exact spot
Well, considering the 20mm cannon belts are are almost completely HE and are basically useless against the tail, it doesn’t really work out that way. Furthermore, hitting the tail from dead behind is as hard as hitting the wings, and more difficult to hitting the engines on a multi-engine plane, both of which are more likely to kill a plane. More likely, I think people just put their crosshairs over the lead indicator and not aim for any component in general, thus geting glancing hits and blasts on the tail.
As far as I can tell the hit markers are desynced, and the Cannons do next to no damage to the plane. Pilot sniping is the best way.
I was on the fence whether it was just Dsync or weapon damage was next to nothing, But today I had a po2 biplane hovering above me in my Panzer III was so easy to hit with the main cannon. 2 direct hits with HEAT center mass…and nothing. No smoke. no flame, no loss of control.
Plane should have been obliterated. Plane damage model needs to be much better.
the problem is that the horizontal and vertical stabilizers on the tail will not be damaged
going for the tail is a great tactic as IF the game worked properly you would incapacitate the plane
This, In warthunder most of my deaths, or return to air fields, are from taking a round to the elevator. Just getting scraped puts you in a real bad way.
Sure, but again the belts of the 20mms are pure HE for some reason, which makes trying to shoot the tail a pointless task even if the models are correct.
damage is damage if a 20mm pens or dets near the tail its FUBARéd
Not if it explodes on impact, especially if it is an American plane. It might muck up the control surface sure, but it won’t guaranteed destroy it.
there is a little thing called SHARPNEL
Yes, but the best that will do is get stuck in the bits in between the control surfaces.
if it explodes from 5 meters away, not if its with in a meter
and the 20mm shreds everything in a foot radius its
planes are mainly made of out aluminum not steels or compressed aluminum as they were too heavy
I know but still, an explosion from a 20mm autocannon doesn’t have that much splasn. Just try the T-60, Pz II or AB 41’s HE to see what I mean.
its not the splash that matters its the size of the caseing, they turn into little bullets that fly off in every way
I know, but I’m saying that for a 20mm that there is barely any shrapnel. Furthermore, the game doesn’t model shrapnel so this is a moot point.
shrapnel is shrapnel there is still enough to fill a foot of space with over 30-40 pieces of nail sized bits here is some reference to what a 20mm can do
this is what a 37mm does
Yes, but that not just HE. The German belts are a mix of AP and Incendiary shells, meaning they have more punch. The shrapnel from a 20mm HE is probably negligable, or at worst equal to a burst from a rifle caliber machine gun.
