Lies again. We have already been through that, right?
I don´t see any evil freeloaders wanting to remove everything around and make it free. All I see are players refusing to let gaijin and darkflow get away with this and want to utilize active slots in WT manner (aka not so P2W but still good to have)
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First freeloaders like you got premium squads nerfed into useless status, I can get better results with any other squad, now you want to nerf premium.
Soon just delete the premium concept as a whole and make everything free! I would tell you exactly what to do, but unfortunately that would result in a ban for being too graphic.
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actually it is exactly what this whole thread is doing, you are wrong there. The people writing in this want a free slot added to free players to make them equal to people who are willing to spend money on a game they enjoy, and have the reward for doing so.
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Okay, rather than rant and throw feces at each others face I will just ask you this:
Do you think that people should get an advantage in a game if they decide to spend real money on it?
After that we can continue our discussion
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Last time I checked, squad slots are not the only thing you can pay for. Everyone here is perfectly fine with premium squads, or premium battle passes, or XP boost for premium time. Just not with the slots.
The squads which have been nerfed to useless status due to freeloaders whining and every other squad is better? Yeah, those squads. They’re so useful, oh wait, they aren’t.
Ofc you’re fine with them, they’re already pretty much destroyed minus the MG squad.
Doesn’t really mean anything. Remove the battle pass for all we care, wouldn’t change much.
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Exactly what they are saying ‘shouldn’t happen’. It’s a culture issue these days. F2P mentality that anything gained from Paying is P2W. Literally the F2P player has all the same squads that a Paying customer has other then limited premium squads that aren’t as good as maxed out free squads. Yes paying gives access to more slots, meaning diversity the Free player does not have, but they have the same squads over all.
They simply want the rewards for paying to be rewards for playing.
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Not equal. This have nothing to do with equality. If F2P account should grind for few extra slots, those slots to have 2 vehicle 4 infantry, then premium player would have 3 vehicle 5 infantry, player who bought even more will have even more.
So what equality are you talking about? What would this suggestion cause then? It would turn extra slots that are bought into an convenience that is still going to help you and possitively affect your gameplay. BUT F2P account will no longer be draconicaly restricted in comparison.
The same squads I have been saying could get some kind of buff to be near old performance? Not quite full old performance, unless the few of the premium guns that are performing better than the free guns are brought in line of their free counterparts. If that happens, then sure give them the full revert.
Except that won’t happen seeing as after all the whining you and other freeloaders have done about them, the devs nerfed them into useless status and will extremely likely remain that way, which goes right back to, why should I support them financially and pay for them when they are utterly worthless?
The premium squads are a prime example of why listening to freeloaders is a mistake. They went from being OP, to being utterly worthless, while we, the ones that actually PAID for them, offered suggestions to make them balanced and remove what was making them OP.
But nope, freeloader whining won, they now have no value, no reason for us to support the game financially with premium squads.
So yes, if I seem like I’m defending these things, THAT is exactly why. We’ve been down this road once.
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Except most of us asked for a slight nerf to the few guns that were OP, and a change to the squad composition to not be full assaulters. We did not ask them to be made near useless.
Trust me, if only thing that premium would give is some cosmetics, people would still complain that those cosmetics give advantage. That happened in Planetside 2.
Maybe Gaijin should abandon this model and switch to Paradox model - low cost for base game and low cost 50+ dlcs 
Premium squads were problematic because of their perks and ability to take 7 assaulters.
Community wanted both aspects to be nerfed, but I don´t recal anyone suggesting they should be down only to 4 men. So perk nerf was according to the community´s wishes, 4 men squad was overkill that took place because squad sizes were lowered as well.
For all I care they can have engineer, radioman along, what was problematic about that aspect, was composition.
Using overkill part of premium squad nerf against people trying to lower amount of P2W in the game is not really fair, because that wasn´t their fault or intention.
The argument is giving Free Players the extra slot at the cost of their time. The game right now still has a strong grind that only free players have experienced and by no means will it be instant unlock. Premium still has a big place in this situation as it gives extra slots in all factions, yet the system that was proposed allows you to gain it through long grind (A long grind that can be also accelerated via purchasing premium).
In this system Premium still gives you all the advantages that it has right now, yet it allows players to not feel thrown behind (what in the end will be the downfall of the playerbase since majority are freeloaders).
I have nothing against Premium advantages that do not spread into gameplay. Premium players get to progress much faster and get another perks that do not affect the actual combat. The post is only here to discuss the situation where Premium does extend into the game.
Yes, but in this situation the diversity does give you an advantage, especially with the current state of vehicles.
So With that I would ask you to give a solid answer to the question:
Do you think that people should get an advantage in a game if they decide to spend real money on it?
Well, no one is forcing you to stay here nor read this. You are always free to leave yet you refuse to do so. With that we can say that Listening to Wallet Warriors is a mistake and considering the numbers of the F2P players, most would agree.
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No they exist because people are willing to put money into them. Which freeloaders by definition do not.
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The funny part about democracy is that majority can vote yes to absolutely dog shit ideas which leads to everyone suffering in long term. That’s why no business is run as democracy.
I’m fine with slots as they are right now, you can use it as a scale goat for “p2w”. If it’s removed, you people will find something else to complain about.
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Then leave. No one is forcing you to stay here or read.
I’m sure the devs agree with freeloaders that aren’t filling their pockets.
Oh wait, that’s people like me, not you. Games exist and continue existing because of people willing to spend money. Once people are done complaining about premium, I give it 2 weeks before you find a new thing to whine about being P2W.
Democracy is a mistake in a business, it’s how you go OUT of business.
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Freeloaders make up a majority of any F2P game. They are the free marketing of the game and are the ones that keep games populated and looking alive. Remove freeloaders and you now have a game that most of people haven’t heard of with a low playercount, and with it lower number of new people who would like to join the game.
Say what you want about the Freeloaders yet they are the invisible fundament of any free2play game.
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(off topic) Tyranny of the majority and Democracy are two different things (and two different established terms) Just for you to know btw before you start trashtalking without any knowledge.
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Sadly it’s kinda my thread so how bout no.
I’m sure players love devs who actively want to empty out their pockets
I have more than enough money to support Enlisted, yet I don’t want to do so if that’s the policy they want to continue with, and these are the players that defend it. Enlisted might aswell not exist since as mentioned It does have good alternatives, with a community that is focused on creating a game, not a cardswipe shop.
All I am here is to give a game a chance to actually be enjoyable for the majority. If all you care about is paying as much as you want, then go ahead, it’s your money and your life. You entered this conversation with nothing despite your pride of being the one who spends money to feel better about himself - just the people game companies are begging for. So I wish you all the best in your life and hopefully one day you will realize that not everything can be achieved with your mastercard.
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