He’s suggesting people that don’t pay can’t level beyond level 15. That’d be at least as bad.
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Oh, right. I missread that. Sorry
I don’t use WTs forums.
A lot of P2W games died and you don’t hear about all of those as a result. And unlike WT, Enlisted doesn’t have enough of a niche to set itself apart.
I am not against paying for unique experiences. I am even in favor of buffing the premium squads to near their old strength. But I am against anything that gives an advantage.
At least my arguments do boil down to something besides “I have to pay to perform better”
Because these freeloaders are the reason why these games even exist in the first place.
The entire post is based around removing a single controversial aspect of premium, noone is asking you to bend over and pay for us.
Both of these games are more than 5 Years old and have a good amount of competition on the market. H&G is so bad that even using that as a comparison seems odd.
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They died because they were horrendously P2W and locked 90% of the game behind MULTIPLE paywalls, they can’t be compared to Enlisted in any way, shape or form.
F2P games that listened to people like you today are both extremely low on population and the paying playerbase is largely gone. H&G suffered from making everything free, paying players left. Because again, WHY SHOULD I SUPPORT IT FINANCIALLY WHEN I GET NOTHING.
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Games die for different reasons, inability to keep development going is the most common. Like H&G was doing really well for first 3-4 years till they started to level playing field for free players. The whole P2W as a death of games I hear for last 10 years on forums of WoT, WoS and WT, strangely they are still alive and doing just fine.
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Hmmm
Premium time
Premium squad
Premium battle pass
Totally not multiple paywalls.
You still have premium squads, premium battle pass, and the directly bought progression.
Premium time would still offer double progression speed just like in similar games, for similar prices. This very much seems like a “I want to stomp on people that spent less” over “I want to get my money’s worth”. I never said that I would not be fine with some other kind of compensation or whatever in premium time. Give premium time owners triple XP instead of double for all I care.
3 games that stand out as being unique enough to actually hold out because they can make their monetization as predatory as they want without risk of a competitor taking away their players.
None of these lock you out from the game.
None of these lock you out from the game.
Not good enough for the amount they are charging.
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False, you are not getting nothing… this suggestion only wants to make active slots an convience that is good to have and pay for but it is not mandatory, like it is in WT. Nobody wants to get ALL slots for free.
False again, no one wants everything for free here, why are you even using these examples on Enlisted players? Its all lies.
Monetization can be done even without P2W.
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Yet they charge exactly the same amount as war thunder, where premium time is actually one of the most bought things by long time players as it benefits them more than a premium tank. The only difference is that Enlisted has yet to have any discounts, and lacks different lengths of premium time.
Again, if that would not be enough, I’m fine with trading the slots for triple XP instead of double. Paying players can get all of the unique experiences (premium guns that don’t overperform) and progression boosts they want, but in-match advantages are a no-go.
It’s not mandatory already. Far from it. Too many people here think buying premium suddenly gives you laser aimbot with perfect accuracy that you can snipe people with pistols across the map through terrain with unlimited ammo.
An extra squad in the hands of a potato doesn’t make him a god, he’s still a potato, with an additional squad to be a potato in.
Again, give freeloaders an extra slot for a plane and tank by default, and call it a day.
Looking at these threads, yes, people have a disgusting illusion that everything should be free because we are totally going to support a game financially when there’s no incentive to do so.
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Making it and an 4th infantry slot unlocks at like level 5 and 10 respectively would probably be best. Give some incentive for people to grind things out, etc.
Stop giving that straw man argument over and over. We all clearly said what is wrong with additional slots being available only for money. And “laser aimbot” appears only in your comments.
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10 and 15.
You can get level 5 in 2 matches, that’s way too fast.
If you say it doesn’t really give you much of an advantage, and having offered to unlock by default, why would it be “too fast”? Especially considering it would take the place of whatever is in level 5, i’d argue it would be more important to have it early as you don’t spend 180k XP on a squad slot, which could be considered less of a reward than a new squad.
Interesting, you are first and only person I see who is saying that. Right along with insulting F2P players or anyone refusing to pay for P2W and overpriced bundles in an indie game that is in BETA as bonus. Also don´t act like premium is not giving you any considerable advantage AT ALL. I had premium account too and I know full well how much of an “convenience” that one vehicle and infantry slot is in comparison.
Haven´t seen those people either… but what I saw (a lot) is you defending P2W parts of the monetization at any cost while insulting those who do not share this vision as noobs or freeloaders.
Allowing to grind for at least some of those slots (1 vehicle, 1 infantry) is not going to make you lose anything. You will still have your advantage of having more options and being less dependent on luck of what map with which meta you are going to get.
So I don´t understand where is your aggresivity coming from. You are not losing anything.
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Unlocking too many things too fast can and does overwhelm people. I’ve had my share of games where you unlock so many things at once so quickly you are confused for a while. It can be 5 and 10 if you want I don’t really care, having the extra slot doesn’t mean anything in terms of performance.
Personally I like that you can’t have both a plane and a tank, it is better balance for an infantry ‘enlisted’ game then everyone having full access to everything.
First I don’t mind spending money on video games, want to play for free, enjoy the free pieces you get is my mindset. The company needs to make money, and quite frankly this isn’t a tank and airplane game, it is an infantry game with limited tanks and airplanes in it.
Not only would it be unbalanced for that amount of availability, it would also remove one of the reasons they currently have to have a premium account. What would they do, give them premiums a 3rd vehicle slot?
All you free to play haters need to invest in your entertainment rather then expect everything handed to you.
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None, NONE besides YOU have said that it gives you laser aimbot. All this thread does is raise awareness that the aspect of extra squads puts free players at a disadvantage. Maybe it’s hard to see for a player who only has played with premium.
Who are you arguing with? This is all what the discussion here is trying to acomplish.
Noone, Not a single person in this thread has asked for everything to be free. Again you are the only one who is saying so. This thread only discusses the advantages a specific feature is giving you over others.
Noone will support a game where paying gives you an advantage over others unless you really can’t play with your own skill. That’s the reason why I don’t support War Thunder and why I refuse to support Enlisted as it currently is.
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Only thing I’m defending is the constant desire from freeloaders to remove everything in the game causing it to die because no one will support it financially.
I ask again, if you constantly nerf everything we pay for to a point they’re useless, like you have with the Premium Squads, they have no value, I can get much better results with a squad of assaulters, WHY WOULD WE SUPPORT THE GAME FINANCIALLY.
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