Add more (and better) Japanese BR 1-3 plane squads and planes

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Disclaimer 1: I don’t play Japan on BR 4-5, so I don’t know what’s going on there.

Disclaimer 2: I don’t ‘main’ any faction, so I don’t look to weaken/strengthen either of them against another.

  • Problem 1: Japan has too few plane squads

As a ‘veteran’ player with legacy squads, I can circle 3 fighters/3 attack aircraft if I want with USSR/USA/Germany but this is imposible with Japan as it only has 3 fighter squads total (one locked to A6M2 (BR2), one locked to A5M4 (BR1), one locked to BR 4 planes).

Currently it just feels unfair for the Japanese that on BR2 USA I can do this:

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But Japan BR2 can only do this:

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Meanwhile, with the eventual addition of Soviet-Japanese front, I’ll also be able to do this with USSR BR2:

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And just for comparison Germany BR2 can do this:

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This is just not an equal fight: they shoot down my American BR2 fighter, I can spawn another one; but if they shoot down my Japanese BR2 fighter – I am done fighting for air superiority.

  • SOLUTION: add more Japanese vehicle squads through progression/events
  • Problem 2. Japan has too few and too weak planes

Some BR2 attack planes have this:

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While Japan attack planes can only have this:

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Some BR2 fighter planes have this:

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While Japan fighter planes can only have this:

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Also, Japan was known to invest a lot in their navy and aircraft, but in Enlisted we currently only have: E13A1 (BR1), A5M4 (BR1), D3A1 (BR2), A6M2 (BR2), B5N2 (BR2) and D4Y1 (recently BR3).

Where are all the other planes that were used in WW2?

Fighters

Kawanishi N1K Kyofu Navy Fighter Seaplane Rex 1942 1532 IJN
Kawanishi N1K1-J/N1K2-J Shiden Navy Land-Based Interceptor George 1943 1435 IJN
Kawasaki Ki-10 Army Type 95 Fighter Perry 1935 588 IJA
Kawasaki Ki-45 Toryu Army Type 2 Two-Seat Fighter Nick 1941 1370 IJA
Kawasaki Ki-61 Hien Army Type 3 Fighter Tony 1943 3159 IJA
Kawasaki Ki-100 Goshikisen Army Type 5 Fighter n/a 1945 395 IJA
Kawasaki Ki-102 Army Type 4 Assault Aircraft Randy 1944 238 IJA
Mitsubishi A5M Navy Type 96 Carrier-based Fighter Claude 1937 1094 IJN
Mitsubishi A6M Zero-Sen Navy Type Zero Carrier Fighter Zeke/Hamp 1940 10939 IJN
Mitsubishi A7M Reppū Navy Carrier-based Fighter Sam 1944 10 IJN
Mitsubishi J2M Raiden Navy Interceptor Fighter Jack 1942 621 IJN
Mitsubishi Ki-46-III-Kai Army Type 100 Air Defence Fighter Dinah 1941 1742 IJA, IJN
Nakajima A6M2-N Navy Type 2 Interceptor/Fighter-Bomber Rufe 1941 327 IJN
Nakajima J1N1-S Gekko Irving 1941 479 IJN
Nakajima Ki-27 Army Type 97 Fighter Nate 1937 3368 IJA
Nakajima Ki-43 Hayabusa Army Type 1 Fighter Oscar 1939 5919 IJA
Nakajima Ki-44 Shoki Army Type 2 Single-Seat Fighter Tojo 1941 1225 IJA
Nakajima Ki-84 Hayate Army Type 4 Fighter Frank 1943 3514 IJA

Attack aircraft

Aichi D3A Navy Type 99 Carrier Bomber Val 1940 1486 IJN
Aichi B7A Ryusei Navy carrier torpedo bomber Grace 1942 114 IJN
Aichi M6A1 Seiran Navy Special Strike Submarine Bomber n/a 1943 28 IJN
Mitsubishi Ki-15 Army Type 97 Command Reconnaissance Plane Babs 1936 500~ IJA
Mitsubishi Ki-51 Army Type 99 Assault Plane Sonia 1939 2385 IJA
Mitsubishi B5M Navy Type 97 No.2 Carrier Attack Bomber Mabel 1937 125 IJN
Nakajima B5N Navy Type 97 Carrier Attack Bomber Kate 1937 1150~ IJN
Nakajima B6N Tenzan Navy Carrier Torpedo Bomber Jill 1941 1268 IJN
Tachikawa Ki-36 Army Type 98 Direct Co-operation Aircraft Ida 1938 1334 IJA
Yokosuka B4Y Navy Type 96 Carrier Attacker Jean 1935 205 IJN
Yokosuka D4Y Suisei Navy Carrier Dive bomber Judy 1942 2038 IJN
Yokosuka MXY-7 Ohka Baka (‘Fool’ in Japanese)[1] 1944 852 IJN

Bombers

Aircraft Allied Code Name First Flown Number Built Service
Kawasaki Ki-48 Army Type 99 Twin-engined Light Bomber Lily 1940 1997 IJA
Kawasaki Ki-32 Army Type 98 Light Bomber Mary 1937 854 IJA
Mitsubishi G3M Navy Type 96 Land-based Attack Aircraft Nell 1935 1048 IJN
Mitsubishi G4M Navy Type 1 Land-based Attack Aircraft Betty 1941 2435 IJN
Mitsubishi Ki-21 Army Type 97 Heavy Bomber Sally 1938 2064 IJA
Mitsubishi Ki-30 Army Type 97 Light bomber Ann 1938 704 IJA
Mitsubishi Ki-67 Hiryu Army Type 4 Heavy Bomber Peggy 1942 767 IJA
Nakajima Ki-49 Donryu Army Type 100 Heavy Bomber Helen 1941 819 IJA
Yokosuka P1Y1 Ginga Navy Land-Based Bomber Frances 1943 1098 IJN

Even the famous Zero had ~15 versions, but in the game we only have 1 (+1 more as event/premiuim)?

Why can we have 3 versions of Ju-87, 3 versions of P-38, 7 versions of Bf 109, but just 1 Zero in the tech tree?

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  • SOLUTION: add more (and better) Japanese vehicles available in those new squads we just added
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I would love more Japanese plane squads (and more squads in general).

Although I have never thought their BR 1-3 fighter planes were particularly weak in air-to-air combat, given their extraordinary agility.

Albeit, a greater bomb ,or a rocket, payload for them would be appreciated.

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They are agile, yes.

But at the same time there are no BR3 fighters at all, and just one BR2 fighter with armament not comparable to that of P-40, P-38 or IAR.

As you said, would be great to have other options.

Same with attacker planes.

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Yes, yes and yes.

We need more planes in this warthunder deluxe.

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The treatment of the Japanese faction in this game is beyond me…

Many (included the English community Manager) are complaining about the Japanese TT missing key asset since the merge, everybody knows that the japanese TT is lackluster in many significant area and yet somehow they don’t get any useful tools…

Oh they got many tanks since the merge (Na-To, Chi-Nu, Chi-To, Chi-Ri…) and all of them are terrible

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Great idea,but DF will completely halt the development of the Axis powers and just strengthen the US and USSR like propaganda.

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When The Japan Tech tree gets the planes they are missing, I will actually grind it…been waiting a while

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You know what is also funny? The editor has 2 japanese fighter planes fully functional:

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a6m5 and ki 44 2. They arent perfect counters but definitely better than what we have now. The devs are intentionally holding these from japan for no reason. Other nations have gotten editor stuff released:

an m2 stinger
ithaca 37
pavesi svt copy
solothurn at rifle
kv 1 zis 5
kv 2
tiger h1
marder
hs 129

etc

Also carrier spawns are the second biggest problem. The difference is day and night if you spawn with full speed in high altitude instantly or if you have to waste your time taking off from a carrier. Japanese fighter planes cant counter bomber strikes because it takes too much time to take off and gather speed/altitude. Only exception is burma that luckily has no carriers. Some american planes also have to take off from carriers but their best ones (p 38, p51, p 47) all spawn in the air. Japan on the other hand has literally 0 air spawn planes in low br. Only ones that do spawn in air are the high br ones such as ki 84 and kikka. Why cant the devs just remove aircraft carrier spawns for now until they figure a proper fix?

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I have recently finished the japanese techtree, which is very short.
Had many enjoyable battles with good teammates.
BUT…
Yes, Japan needs more of everything: planes, tanks, weapons, squads, maps, enemies…everything.

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Aircraft is what should be prioritized IMO. It’s always 1 Ki-84 Ko / Kikka controlling the sky vs two 1 US fighter and 1 attacker planes. No one want to play underperforming D4Y1 in BR 5 match. And only 1 or 2 choices of low-mid fighter/attacker planes are very lackluster.