Add BR 6 and rework match-making

After the last update, all high BR US weapons (Thompson / BAR / M1 Garand) are useless, because M2 carbine is far better in every aspect.

This makes the game ugly, because a player has no choice beside that one weapon.

My suggestion is to divide BRs by type of rifles:

  • BR I + II - bolt action rifles - for beginners
  • BR III + IV - semi-automatic rifles - for people who value some historicity
  • BR V + VI - full-auto rifles - for people who do not care about historicity

EDIT: I moved Panther A to BR IV.

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Why not just BR I, BR II and BR III?

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Could be as well.

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With your suggestion at least i could do something with my Mkb42s, right now they are just sitting there in storage and waiting for better BR system.
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I could say the same about my Stg45 premium squad that is inferior to Kiraly and MG42 Early premiums.
Finally someone understands that first Tiger is inferior to the Panthers since it’s penetration, armor and mobility are completely inferior.
Ppsh-41 and MP717(r) at least could get some action instead just being reserved only for the tankers.
BR3 should never be allowed to grind newbies and against BR5 you may as well not play at all since you will get completely demolished. Finally 76mm Shermans could be used in their best environment where they will be only hunting Tiger 1 and Panzers instead completely overpowered Tiger 2.
They just added better KV-1 but it won’t be used by anyone since it will go against KT so what’s the point?

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it’s easier to read and understood those BR tiers when you have at max 4 weapons/vehicles of each type in BR tier if they put 8 or more then it will get messy. However it’s mostly GER issue since other nations are not as bloated as Germany.

Whats the difference between IS1 and T-34 85 except first one being slower?
Why is Tiger I Med BR but Panthers are High BR?

IS-1 - 107 produced, T-34-85 - above 20 000 produced (T-34-85 is more historical).

Tiger I - thrash armor, often dies from one shot of M4A1 76 W or T-34-85.

Also - worse cannon than of Panther.

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You mean in a game where it faces wood tanks and WW1 rifles?
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Panther cant OHK tanks most of the time
Panther also cant angle the mantlet and has worse side armor.

Skill issue if it hits ammo rack directly then it will be OHK, it has better pen than the Tiger E/H1 only exception is the IS-1/2/2 1944 since it has a better armor around his ammo rack
Yes you can angle i’ve been deflecting a lot of shells from T-34-85 and Is-1 It shouldn’t be working but it does work. Besides it’s irrelevant since Tiger E/H1 has just 100-110mm of hull frontal armor and everyone will be shooting there so why are you talking about mantlet that has around the same armor and is harder to hit and can bounce shells.
Side armor thickness been an non issue since the merge because everyone can carry most powerful AT launchers so you will die every time if someone reaches your side profile. Only KT can survive side shots.

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Anything can OHK if you hit ammo.
So thats not really special.

And everyone will shoot at mantlet as well.

Except it decides if you can blow up a tank with EP next to side or not and it works on the Panther because it hss same shitty side armor as the Panzer IV. It can also get penned by the M1 and easier by the PIAT.

And I think a IS2 can frontal pen the Panther anywhere anyways.

And everyone will shot at Tiger 1 hull armor which has zero protection against any tank with at least 76mm turret. So Panther will win every time in armor department

you should look at the thickness of side armors since you put values out of your ass, Panther has much thicker side armor than Panzers, at BR4/5 nobody will be running with BR2 launchers (M1/PIAT) everyone will have M9 so stop creating stupid imaginary scenarios in your head because it will never happen in real matches. Besides you can murder Tiger E/H1 with a PIAT

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IS-2 can frontally pen any German tank so? It’s balanced because it has a very long reload time.
Nobody also been mentioning that Panther’s 75mm can frontally pen Jumbos 75% of the time while 88mm can only pen it at the perfect angles and only sometimes so you can’t rely on that cannon. Panther is the worst nemesis of Jumbos it can do fine against Tiger E.

Angle?

Yeah Because who needs gunner, loader and the breech anyway?

So much that even in real life they needed Schurzen to prevent PTR rifles to pen it.
Line 10mm more doesnt prevent it from getting penned by M1s.

Eventually, soon etc.
And according Wiegs sheet, the Tiger would face all launchers at the same area… but soontm they will have launchers.
Just put newbies against Tiger 2s because soontm they will unlocked sth.

Which I didnt deny but okay.
The point is that since its 80mm pen or so it has to be perfect otherwise it wont pen unlike how the Faust or the M9.

Rant against Tiger angle is pointless because its the sole tank gun I think that can pen it through angled front as it is sole gun that can pen the upper front of the Panther.

Both tanks have same BR in WT so there is no real reason to not them treat them the same, especially if you dont even consider the way better HE shells of the Tiger.

But most important:
Why is the MP40 Med BR?

MP 40 / BAR / PPSh-41 / Gewehr 43 / SVT-40 / MG-42 / DP-27 - they are in the same BR to emphasize that they are most common, most recognizable equipment used in a war.

Should a Panther (Panther A) be in a BR IV or BR V - I can agree for BR IV (it was also very common tank) but only if they add proper damage model:


Late Panther is 100% better than Tiger

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And still they have same BR. Whats the point about their tech level? Is as important as here for the MM. Not at all.
(And in current Enlisted Panther not only comes before the Tiger also has IV while Tiger has V).

A issue for almost all tanks.

This is not how current BR works or should work.
Thats just dumb and hypocritical.

Sure thing. Just dont cry that Allies are using nothing but M2 carbine.

Discussion is over.