There is no squads with machine gun with 100 rounds and 1300 rof…
So why germans should get it?
It’s a prototype… of LMG (well, GPMG but you get the point).
It’s not like in prototype stage it’s outside of gun classification.
True, truck is a better comparison.
My issue is that this gun is not possible to use because soldier simply can’t hold it (for long).
For something like BAR lack of bipod is not an issue because it’s construction still allows soldier to use it. You have a wooden grip for soldier to hold.
But this is not the case for MG39. Soldier could use it only by holding the barrel shroud, that would get hot after some shots. So there needs to be either bipod, glove or grip for soldier to hold the weapon.
Or make the user lose 1hp after shooting 50 rounds to simulate the burns on hand (joke).
If you want.
I don’t understand what you meant.
Do you what’s mean prototype. Do you know that’s prototype could be unaccomplished?
Finally, at least something.
They disabled this mechanic from paidgrad.
BAR isn’t mg. It’s just autorifle.
Come on. Play for japans and finally realize that’s they don’t care about realism(Your soldier could easily run/ or just up 50+kg ATR by one arm).
I guess it’s was written pretty fine in english.
They ADDED weapon without bipods.
They DON’T REMOVE it.
You saying that’s they should REMOVE reload animation from one gun…
I mean, if you make a prototype of LMG, it’s a prototype of LMG. At least that’s how it works at my job.
Unless you fuck up your job so hard that the finished product won’t be the LMG. But then I think there is no hope for you.
? I was talking about irl.
It’s auto rifle pushed to LMG role as a stopgap because US didn’t have it’s LMG. Also you’ve just said yourself that MG is just full auto rifle so by this definition BAR is MG.
Anyway, that’s not my point. My point is that in reality MG39 couldn’t be used because of no hand support. BAR was just to illustrate how it’s done in other guns that also use bipods.
True.
But they added gasmask and gloves to ofenrohr to make it look realistic. And I’d say i’s a similar case here as it’s purely to make it visually more believable.
You are just mean and pick on words.
“Add a gun without reload animation” is what I meant.
Having 1300 rof is more a disaventage in some ways since You Will be reloading all the day and on the other hand Machine guns like the Browning or the RD-44 have lof rof meaning that they can be shooting for longer time, also common man all the nations got a belt fed mg why ge cannot have one?
Because king tiger.
So I guess when you see a car you don’t call it a car. Instead you call it: vagen when it’s german, voiture when it’s french, auto when it’s italian or car when it’s american. And all of those things are completely different and shouldn’t be compared under any circumstances.
Ffs guys, you should learn how languages work.
Yesh, it’s GPMG.
And maybe you should have checked what this means:
Yeah, I still don’t see LMG anywhere.
FG wasn’t LMG, yet it could take role of one
This doesn’t make sense what so ever.
GPMG just like FG were designed to have LMG role. So I’d say it makes them kind of LMGs when they are in this role.
Just like using GPMG on a tripod makes it a HMG (ger: sMG). At least by german ww2 nomenclature.
Also it doesn’t have to be called LMG to have a bipod. Here is a quote about GPMG:
It’s also in the link you didn’t bother to follow.
But nah, the Holly Image of MG39 doesn’t have bipod so ignore it’s real life application and simple physics.
No. In such case, FG would be simply named FMG. But it’s not, since its just rifle for paratroopers. It is not MG for paratroopers, and not even a LMG for paratroopers.
It’s a rifle that was supposed to also have a role of LMG as a “secondary” function. So actually it is essentially “MG for paratroopers” when it serves that role.
Yeah, but it’s no classified as LMG and neither is MG39 nor MG42 nor M34 nor MG3.
So stop calling them LMGs.
Then I guess you should go back in time and tell ww2 germans to not call MG34 on tripod HMG.
Yes, technically it’s GPMG but serves LMG role. But some name nitpicking doesn’t make it any less of an LMG.
Also some ppl reffer to this as “… in LMG configuration”. Just like I can reffer to multitool as a screw driver when I use it as a screw driver.
Also I have no clue how picking on words and deffinitions contributes to the discussion.
Well, my point is that bipod is definitely not needed. And your main argument for adding bipod was “it’s LMG”.
But it obviously isn’t LMG.
My main point is that soldier would burn his hand when using it.
And I proposed bipod as it’s used in LMG role so it makes sense.
Unfortulately this way I dared to vandalise the Holly Image of MG39 so now I have to fight you guys.
True, currently it’s not in LMG configuration as it would require a bipod or a grip.
But it’s not in HMG configuration or vehicle configuration either. So I guess it’s in “warehouse” configuration and shouldn’t be given to soldiers.
Yeah, I thought we came to conclusion DF should give those soldiers gloves.
It would make them unique in comparison to others
I agree.
But apparently Knyaz_Iaroslav didn’t read this part so we continued our discussion. And I don’t mind tbh as I’m bored sitting at my job.
it good tbh modern day forum arent the same as the past forum so these are fun to read while i grind space marine 1 challenge for gun
Say thanks to one russian forum member which no longer with us.
About everything else - I tired.
You fking kidding me.
You can get MG 08. Literally maxim-tokarev but german.