Yes. This sounds good at first. Then you realized that it wouldn’t be either. First of all, gear is one thing. But you soon realize that there are the same unworldly bad players around you as before, only with the same equipment as yours. Those who shoot just as badly, screw up the rally point, etc.
There won’t be more balanced battles. It will be the same, in a different form.
It doesn’t solve the bot festival either. If the search for MM is very broad, you will also have to deal with higher equipment. If the search range is too small, it will never find enough players and it will again be filled with bot players. Nothing has changed.
Second time. You’re going to hate it massively. Pretty soon. When do you realize how not fun it is when both teams play a full fedorov/ppsh/mkbh/stg festival. Every time. Anyone who has played a scoreboard event knows exactly what it’s like. In a competition that has a limited time, it’s fine. When random is like this, you’re going to hate it. Of course, people react to this by taking back equipment. The high-end will soon become depopulated. And if there are not enough players, MM will crash again. And he either puts in bots or unlucky mid-tier players. In other words, nothing has changed.
Moreover, the player will not be interested in playing at a higher level or grinding better equipment. You won’t get a better gaming experience for your investment of time. It’s no accident, it didn’t spread, equipment-based MM in fps games.
Additionally, a gear-based MM would assume that the gear is properly balanced. We are talking about a development team according to which the 71round ppsh41 is on the same level as the beretta.
Of course, if someone wants to believe that they are getting a cure, rather than a nail being hammered into their coffin, I will explain these to them in vain.
They are idiots because they cant realize that WIP literally means “work in progress” and not “this is a final product”
this is good but…
does that mean that the panzer 2 will possibly be encountering A IS-2.
Yes. All we wanted was more human vs human in matchs.
Not at the cost of variety, which is what I’m against. Weaponry br mm will only mean that everyone will try using the most meta stuff possible, or will “cheese” their way out of it and use entry lvl things to murder newcomers. Having a varied loadout won’t be an option anymore (unless they take the total of br points into acount an mm with it’s average value)
It will be meta only.
Sure, you don’t mind about it, because you already say that all you use is assaulters, gunners and tank. It’s not wrong at all to do so, it’s a preferred playing style and I respect that.
It prevents OTHER playing styles to be valid, thought.
Now this upcoming update is going in the right direction, yes. But ppl tell the devs right now what they like, or disagree about right away simply to prevent a fiasco. which is why devs were smart enough to release a roadmap, which is something I really appreciate.
In short, we can’t just “wait and see”, because THE DEVS THEMSELVES are showing this idea to us to see if we like or not. We merely give answers, concerns, or approval.
Edit: I’m also concerned about all the slots I bought and premium usefulness in the new system, which is why I voice concern so devs take notice. But that’s for me.
They are idiots because they shout “beware the Wolf is gonna to eat us” withaut the wolf
So they should complain when the final product is released? So it’s either too late to change or it’s a waste of development time?
Devs show us WIP shit so we can give them feedback. And behold, complaining is a form of feedback.
It’s still a work in progress and also this makes it possible to add new “campaigns” without splitting the player base even more. Also, this in general can give more freedom to the developers to make say new weapons, planes, and tanks. And make balancing less of a pain.
They shouldn’t complain, but suggest instead.
I liked all these new suggestions with improvements, but not complains like “I’m quitting the game” or “Your system is shit”
that is stupidiest and most uninformative way of feedback
Ok, I understand this.
But it’s the internet so you can’t have too high standards.
fair enough
We should complain when whe get a non photoshoped image or better a video showing us in detail how the rework work
Because the actual material is…
I preffer players to complain about some placeholder image that will be scraped anyway than about the finished product.
Because changing the finished product means loss of development time.
You don’t make a car to get initial feedback.
You make a drawing to get initial feedback because it’s cheap and can save you shit ton of monney when making the car.
The game was about different historical campaigns battles with a unique feel to each one, with their own squads and weapons n loadouts and vehicles. A immersive historical shooter where you get to be those suads in that squad with time appropriate unifomrs/gear and vehicles having a go at what they would have faced right there and then.
Now you COMPLETELY change the gmae into a whole other game? like really? Who thought after All this time and money invested in this game i actually enjoy would be happy with the game changing into another game where history is thrown out completely, a generic trash cesspool of quick match based on bullshit battle rating? I HATE War Thunder for same reasons.
War Thunder need to change into what Enlisted was/is NOT the way around!
I’m not sure about it.
They show us a wip now, probably because they want feedback…
Now.
Think about it. It’s much easier for the devs to adjust the direction they are going when not much work has been done yet.
Less costly too.
It’s smart of the devs to do so right away in fact, and I appreciate it.
See it this way:
- Devs: “hey guys, here’s what we are working on. What do you guys think about it? We will collect info for Q&A”
- community: “I like/dislike this about that because of this please do/don’t do this/instead”.
It’s normal.
nothing wrong with this.
on contrary, with playerbase unification and new MM situation will be a lot better. certainly it wont be perfectly balanced, but it wont be heavily skewered like it was before.
on contrary, i will love it. i played competitive CS (1.6 and GO), so actual equipment balance is good. and if i want to relax or play something other than non meta i can actually have choices with new MM and still have good chance to win. current MM (or lack of) is forcing meta end game equipment if you want to win. and with new MM i can take bolties, or intermediate weapons/vehicles and enjoy them
and players will get their historical accuracy then. most of the high tier equipment was either made in low quantities, or was prototype or was available after the actual battle.
well that is cause most fps dont have grind for equipment and you have all equipment available at start. in grind for equipment type of games (like WT, WoT, WoWs) equipment based MM is normal.
well at least it is still better than no balance now. and who knows, maybe they will actually rate those weapons properly now that they are not tied to a level unlock.
it doesnt fix all problems in game, but it fixes a lot of them.
no. equipment based MM means that panzer 2 will encounter its equivalent in rating. so pz2 is 1 rating and is2 is 10 rating. pz2 would probably encounter max rating of 2 or maybe 3.
That’s the thing.
We don’t know.
What if I use a pz2, but also a mkb42h squad?
I totally agree with him, your ideas are bad.
A comment on the UI too. It looks boring as hell. plain stupid stale and sterile. just like War Thunder.
The researsch tree ui looks terrible, from colours to fonts and placements and the tree itself.
How hard is it to take what weapons actually are in reality and make a family thereafter. bolt rifle, semi-autos, SMGS flametrhowers and mortars all in different families, and upgrade path based on timeline hostorical development.
Why all have to be broken into ome bullshit made up battle rating.
The whole change game into a new trash game is shit, but i mean even the UI looks more boring
But it mean even if i equip sufficient high end infantry gun i can do a pz2 vs jumbo
But it mean even for example
use only 4 stg type the rest g43,kar and mg34 it let you play all map use a good gun and never encounter a sweetlord
Infinite possibilities