⭐ About the new progression and matchmaking

Jumbo vs ka chi (something) goes BRRRRRR :laughing:

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They already said it’s not going to be like that ⭐ About the new progression and matchmaking - #110 by 1942786

I don’t think Jumbo will appear in Pacific, since its br will be higher than all Japanese tank.

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Depends.

If br is a combination of EVERY arms, equipment, vehicles… it might be possible. Example Japanese use last smg unlock. Woops, matched vs jumbo.

Who knows.

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This looks like an all around bad change.

Being able to grind specific equipment will make the campaign worse.
To give an example there is the Tiger problem in War Thunder where people just rush that tank. But the game wants you to use more tanks than that in their game modes so they bring in garbage as backup. Or just quit when they can not instantly respawn in their favorite vehicle.

This will also happen in enlisted where people will just rush the equipment they wamt, get thrown in to high tier matches and completely mess up the game.

The Developers said exactly nothing about xp/time requirement for unlocks. So I would expect the unlock time for all equipment to be like playing germany on all campaigns, to the finish instead of needing the time to unlock one campaign completely.

Historical accuracy is out the window with maps being locked to factions and not equipment. It was already tenous but with that update it is dead. Don’t like it? Go hide in customs I guess.

The idea to have equipment balance is nice but the developers already said this will be dependant on player numbers.
So if there is a cliff you will have veterans pulling in newer players and then stomping all over them. Or there will be hard coded limits like in War Thunder where there is top line equipment and if you go 1 up you get thrown in to hell, but if you stay on that line you will dominate.

I am also highly skeptical about the announced simplification on the order system. Considering how long it took the developers to fix their screw up from the last simplification. Remember, if the community had not repeatedly hit them over the head the devs would not have added silver orders for XP. Do you realy think they will be kinder this time?

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People need to just take a step back and wait for the next devblog, many questions haven’t been answered because it is likely in the next post. Let us see how it will actually work before we start thinking worst case scenarios.

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If we watch the screenshot keo give us, boltie and semi-auto are 1 star, Pre ppd40 smg are 1 star as well, Tank and Plane outiside starter one are 2/3 star

Idk how be in the end but is possible that endgame japanese gear even if is shit compared to US one can call a migthy jumbo from normandy

Anyway is pure speculation probably final version would be more clear (Anyway jumbo or not US retarded keep spam m13)

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I’m cautiously optimistic. Generally good changes and nothing deal breaking for me. I have questions of course but I’m pretty sure they will be answered in the coming dblogs. It’s a thumbs up from me.

also 2 of my friends just bought stanlingrad pack and pacific pack, so all benefits is gone???

this is how the devs treats your own customers?

being forced to play certain front is dumb. there should be incentive to join a campaign if theres low playerbase on a faction, like 50% xp boost if you play Axis On Berlin

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Why not just restrict certain squads to certain campaigns? Or do the same with weapons. For example, you can’t play Moscow maps with an STG44

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a change in progression system and matchmaking, we just need to see how it works before knowing whether this type of change is good or not.

This is awful, almost top to bottom. You need to match people by their skill not the weapons they have. You literally have a pseudo-skill based rank too. There will be plenty of loosers like there are in WT, where they do nothing but pick 1.0BR vehicle and curbstomp new players to make themselves feel better.
Also, combining queueing does not have to mean combining the armies. You could have separate, period accurate armies with shared unlocks, so that once you unlock an AVS-36, you can use it any soviet period, but AVT-40 is not available in Moscow battles.
I’m sick of every army now being almost exactly the same. You could use the unified matchmaking to have per-battle weapon limits/presets, so that you get to use all the cool weird things like the Armaguerra 39 without being extremely uncompetitive. You could make sure that if you have a maxed out weapon from 1945, in a mission it is not available in, it gets temporarily downgraded to a "best-like"weapon from the period. (Or you let the player make a preset manually and save it). Personally I’m completely fine blasting krauts with M1895 Winchester too, if that means no StG44s in damn Moscow.
I’d happily queue any and all countries, with any weapon/vehicle descriptions, if I had the option to avoid the accursed defend-only missions (90% of the time the “attackers” seem to be afk in grayzone, so you just sit there bored to death waiting for the tickets to trickle away or the damn timer to run out), didn’t have to worry about “wasting” XP and there was some system to prevent “play all” from sticking players in the “my whole team is bots, gg we lost” situation every single time
Please don’t murder this somewhat historically accurate game with this poorly thought out plan. I don’t want to see a damn Me262 in Moscow

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some of us already maxed out all in all campaigns, or have several campaigns maxed, and grinding Germany for 4 campaigns in a row is super painful. so we get no compensation if this were to go live? really

we only get research unlocked? so all the time wasted for grinding level 1 till level max? What about those who used gold to leve up on Campaign Level? Get nothing?

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I remember the times where you can actually fight in 1945 Berlin driving a T-72B3. Funny at times but baffling to see modern tanks playing in WWII maps without updating the game mechanics and map design for those vehicles.

This has already been stated hundreds of times, but the more it comes out the more it’ll be apparent the gamers do not like this change.
Do not. Let Moscow. Get overun with 1944 equipment and vehicles. I play Moscow almost exclusively because of the oldschool bayonet era of the Germans and Soviets not modernising quite yet; if you start giving people STG44s, you’re going to ruin the campaign. Players first unlock in the air is a damn biplane, and now you want to put Tiger IIs on the same battlefield. No.
It’d be very easy to limit unlocks to a time period. Bolt actions unlock in every campaign, while more “modern” equipment gets locked to more “modern” parts of WW2. Why would the Germans be rushing Stalingrad with cheap mass produced garbage like the MP3008 they only made in the late war period out of necesity?

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Let’s say a player have 10 slots on all campaigns.

How many squads we will bring into the figth since Atleast 90 squads will be combined into a single side as German?

Someone explain me please lol

Is unique slots for premium squads into consideration?

How many squads out of all, let’s say German side or soviet, I will be able to bring since currently I own 10 slots on every campaign and every squad unlocked?

This is the only aspect I don’t get nor understand.

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With the lack of new players the Devs can easily introduce it on steam like Warthunder, it would solve the playerbase issue. please do not introduce a system where it force everyone to play a campaign, theres many of us who only wants to play a Specific Campaign only. and grinding from level 1 to max is no joke, so much time and effort wasted, and get 0 compensation.

same with premium with gold, many of them will become near useless. once you reach high level, since you now constantly match with STGs44 and IS-2 every match

and Pacific Allies. im level 20 on US on Pacific. so all that painful time on Grinding is all wasted? Since i already max on Normandy on Allied? This is not OKAY

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Hey keo since there is no longer a player count problem across campaigns can we get realistic battles now?

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Probably on customs. If they add such options.

Baby steps.