MP-18/I (WWI Bergmann)
MP.28 (improved MP-18/I)
MP.30 (ö) (ex-Austrian S1-100 variant)
MP.34 (ö) (ex-Austrian Steyr Solothurn)
MP.34
EMP-34
MP-35
MP-35/1
EMP-36
MP-38
MP-38/40
MP-40
MP-40/II (MP-40 w/ dual magazine)
MP-41 (MP-40 w/ MP-28-like stock)
MP-44 / MP-43 (StG-44) (classified as a submachine gun at the time but is more accurately an assault rifle)
EMP-44 (cheapy weapon made by Erma at the end of the war; it wasn’t any good)
MP-704(f) (ex-Frence PM Vollmar Erma)
MP-715(r) (PPD 34/38)
MP-716(r) (PPD 40)
MP-717(r) (PPSh 41)
MP-718 (r) Captured Russian PPS-42
MP-719 (r) Captured Russian PPS-43
MP-722 (f) Captured French Mas-38
MP-738 (i) Beretta model 38/42
MP-739(i) (Beretta Mo.938)
MP-740(b) (ex-Belgian Mi.Schmeisser-Bayard Mle.34)
MP-741 (d) (The license built Bergman made in Denmark)
MP-746 (d) (Madsen M-42)
MP-749 (e) Captured British Sten Mk II
MP-751 (e) Captured British Sten Mk II with silencer
MP-760 (e)/(j)/(a)/(r) Captured Thompson M-28 from British, US, Yugoslavian or Soviet)
MP-761 (f) Captured Thompson M-1921 purchased by France in 1939
MP-3008 (German near-copy of the Sten Mk.II made at the end of the war)
Czech ZK 383
Captured LL - Model 50 and Model 55 Reisings
Captured LL and OSS - UD M42
Captured US - M3/M3A1 “Grease Guns”
Finnish Suomi m/31
Hungarian 39.M and 43.M
Romanian M1940 and M1941 Orita
Captured GB - Lanchester
Danish Madsen M/41 (a licence manufactured variant of Suomi KP/-31)
A list of all German SMGs, the number of which can be more than one in the setup:
MP-40
One might argue that they shouldn´t add Soviet SMGs to the germans. Seeing as SMGs are one of the Soviets´ strong suits. Might aswell add beutepanzer if they´re doing it beyond the MP 717 in Stalingrad (a mistake).
No thanks we dont need captured smg and more mp28/mp40 copy
we need more silenced MP40s!
Weapon variety is this games strong point, we need as much as possible.
Because its unfair that Germans get an advantage as well.
This would stop glorious bot farming in Soviet campaigns.
Mostly same guns just different names.
Germans have the better LMGs and rifles. They get pretty good tanks on Normandy and Berlin too. I don´t know if it´s still unpopular to say that germany suffers so I´ll keep it at the old “germany doesn`t have many players” excuse. Wich is true depending on what servers you play.
BA rifles and SAs are borderline the same.
Oh you mean AR? AVT and Fed are better.
MG34 and 42 are worst accurate MGs ingame iirc. Excluding the ZB.
So 50/50.
And thats because… they suck in half of campaigns.
FG42 and FG42 II are still the best rifles in the game last I checked. In terms of BA rifles, they get one with a 10 round magazine in Berlin wich is pretty cool. the Soviet equivilant is just a short mosin with a bayonet I believe.
Eh I prefer the MP43 and StG personally. Also the AVT isn´t an AR as far as the game is concerned.
I wouldn´t go that far. They just get their really good stuff later. It´s just more pronounced with them compared to the Allies wich pretty much get slightly better versions of what they already have I think.
it also doesn’t help that 5 of the 6 campaigns are german which divides the playerbase
Yeah they really should have given the other Axis powers some more spotlight in Moscow, Tunisia and Stalingrad.
AVS is better stat-wise.
Fine
Still worse stats than Avtom and Fed.
Where except Berlin and Normandy?
doesn’t the fg42 have a better rpm, similar recoil and more ammo(though i don’t remember the actual total ammo count for Avs is)? i do know that avs has better dispersion
Why liking stat-related posts @92305608 ? Thought its only about ehh impression?
Anyway 150rpm for 0.17 less dispersion, 0.2 less recoil and slightly higher velocity and dmg?
It really matters.
And AVS has five bullets more total.
I don´t really trust any stats below damage because at the end of the day the only thing that matters is if I like using them. The AVS feels like shit to use so I don´t like using it, simple as that.
Whatever makes you feel better I guess.
Moscow, Tunisia and Pacific. Stalingrad is pretty balanced outside of the fact the MP40 is shit and the PPS42 so good in comparison.
I know that Soviet mains have issues to accept data because either they know the truth, think they are so good their skills can make guns more accurate than the game allows it and/ or do not have shitclue about the data mess behind the guns and never seen the data mine and believe on old stories about the Mkb.
Sure whatever makes it easier for you to kill bots.
lmao Normandy Axis is the first campaign I played and the only one I maxed out lmao. Imagine being such a stat whore that you get so butthurt over someone preffering the weaker gun and still doing well with it lol.
I litteraly played a couple matches Stalingrad today where we annihilated the Allies 3 times in a row. My W/L for Moscow and Stalingrad as Axis is 78 and 86 respectively. Unless yours is much worse than mine I don´t see what your problem is here.
Imaging best argument against stats are literally feelings.
And? So far we argue about Soviet-German guns and you basically use the same arguments as the last plebs who tried to come with counter arguments against the weird AVT and Fed stats.
So such stats matter now?